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What the f****** hell is going on?

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OnAFlyer
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Re: What the f****** hell is going on?

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I worked OT last night on IPS and guess what I was sorting? Xmas cards, dated as far back as the 5th December. Admittedly a lot of them had incorrect postcodes on, but only to other local offices - it's taken 5 weeks for them to get a few miles.

Wessex wrote: If there is a hidden agenda what could it be ? Senior management buy-out ? Top bosses to get loads of preferential shares ?
Massive final bonuses / golden handshakes ? Provoking industrial unrest or maybe just incompetent management by overpaid jerks.
I keep wondering about this, can the people at the top presiding over this mess and getting paid a fortune for it really be that useless? Moya says we'll be a smaller company with less staff in the near future - how can that happen when we haven't got enough to do the job now as it is?

We're due our revision soon and I asked the rep in our office if he knew of anywhere where the Delivery methods revisions were working - he said no. Our office is sending staff and managers to other offices because they're hopelessly failing. We've already been told that after the revision we have to be out of the office by a certain time to complete, so basically we are going to be just tying up and leaving the rest, managers already seem resigned to failure.

The office that delivers to my house hasn't had a revision yet, but they're still f*cked. I got a delivery on Sunday, a 1st class packet posted 10 days before, and other packets i've had sent to me still haven't arrived.
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Re: What the f****** hell is going on?

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red1968 wrote:The agenda is no longer hidden ,it's all plain to see run the business into the ground and along comes mr private co. to save the day!!!!!!!!!!
My paranoid theory

Park n Loop (or should it be Bark n Poop cos it's a pile of doggie droppings ) designed to fail and push posties into industrial action coinciding with privatisation bill being passed.Potential foreign buyers are put off investing due to militancy of angry postal workers.To the rescue arrive senior management who put together a buyout plan which grateful government agrees to.
RM is flogged off for peanuts.Managers make things somewhat easier and profits rocket with help of compliant regulator.

Just a theory mind :Very Happy
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I've been saying for at least 2 years now that the only way privatisation will occur is if the business gets ran into the ground, with profitability destroyed and earns a reputation as being "not fit for purpose".

This almost certainly is what is now happening, its a definite agenda and not just due to incompetent management.
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With 1500 odd Delivery Offices there's no two the same. We've not had Revision yet and we're managing to keep up with the mail. It's only a medium sized office 30 odd duties we've got our fair share of selfish individuals, overtime bandits and idle gits. However most of us are fairly flexible, we've got a high proportion of experienced posties who can cover 10 plus duties and we do our best.
I sometimes lean towards the conspiracy theory, particularly on a Really disorganised Day :crazy: I can't figure out how a company that used to send mail all over the world on packet ships can't even deliver to the local neighbourhood! :shock:
The bottom line is you can only do a days work in a day! So work properly take your breaks and go home on time. Don't make it so personal, if the Company can't make it work it's not up to you to be running around getting stressed over it. :cool
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I remember it well,we came in,the s**t (the other s**t not just D2D's) came in,and EVERYTHING went out and not a problem in sight.
Now fair enough depending on your office we got a bit of time out of the job,even me and i wasn't a car user,never came in early,you know the rest.

There was a bit of scope to perhaps lose a job here or there,of course a lot of us could have done a bit more to even things out.

But not what they have done to us over the years,there's getting silly,there's getting really silly,but then there's getting f***ing hell we need the savings at any cost silly.
And guess wot,it don't work!
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It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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robd
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Post by robd »

There are no conspiracy theories,that's like saying Billy and Dave signed off this agreement bacause they knew it couldn't work.
it's simply poor management,what's evident is,they've been okay until the time has come to actually 'manage' and it's something they are not prepared or qualified for,the situation is like putting bills in the cupboard and ignoring them.
although i think the original poster put it very succinctly,and to the point,for me the real question is how are these new practices producing any money?
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Dorset Plodder wrote:With 1500 odd Delivery Offices there's no two the same. We've not had Revision yet and we're managing to keep up with the mail. It's only a medium sized office 30 odd duties we've got our fair share of selfish individuals, overtime bandits and idle gits. However most of us are fairly flexible, we've got a high proportion of experienced posties who can cover 10 plus duties and we do our best.
I sometimes lean towards the conspiracy theory, particularly on a Really disorganised Day :crazy: I can't figure out how a company that used to send mail all over the world on packet ships can't even deliver to the local neighbourhood! :shock:
The bottom line is you can only do a days work in a day! So work properly take your breaks and go home on time. Don't make it so personal, if the Company can't make it work it's not up to you to be running around getting stressed over it. :cool
Well said, mate, well said!

Thing is I've cut-off maybe 3 times in say 5 years... I tried to cut-off last week with way way too much work and got such a bollocking that I GENUINELY thought that my job was on the line. Things have changed!
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Our Office,only revision the table top one ie just loads of extra delivery points on another estate.

Our office has never in its history been in such a mess ,today proably about 90% of walks cut off,staff demoralised ,managers demeoralised,Latest Dom on borrowed time,could be for the chop any day now ,walks not going out for DAYS backlog increaseing.


Managers still saying due to back log from ice and snow,proably still be saying that in August.
Dont know how Postcomm let them get away with such a shoddy service.

So demoralising starting the walk knowing full well you wont finnish and cut offs are simply left for tomorrow!
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Well rumour has it that if ANY part of a delivery is taken out then it is NOT considered as a failure.................... :crazy: Oh what a tangled web....... why can't they face up to the fact that these revisions are not working. We are making no visible impression on the backlog, the boats leaking and the balers too small.
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Our office finally cleared everything bar large packets yesterday, SOM came down and was not pleased that there were still packets there, manager told he's being moved to a different office end of January, that quick.

Cant see how he could have done it any different tbh, Im sure there are other offices further behind than us.

Apparently theyre shuffling the pack in NE, after 12 months????

SOM is irritated cos we voted down his later start plan. How would half an hour make that much of a difference to what did or did not get delivered I ask you??
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dvbuk55 wrote:Well rumour has it that if ANY part of a delivery is taken out then it is NOT considered as a failure.................... :crazy: Oh what a tangled web....... why can't they face up to the fact that these revisions are not working. We are making no visible impression on the backlog, the boats leaking and the balers too small.
That is wrong as all cut off's have to be reported up then reported again,ect ect.
That is what 'should' happen but we all know different.
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It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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BettySwollocks
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Post by BettySwollocks »

My own theory, and it's probably complete b***ocks,
but the way i see it, the mistakes being made are so blindingly obviousley mistakes before even being implemented that you have to ask why they are being forced through ?
i think RM are trying to lose public support, because (and i may be wrong here) it's the public who have gone against privatisation in the past,
i think it was Heseltine who started with the possible selling off with RM, but that attempt and each attempt after failed.
the public once looked upon RM as an invaluable and important asset, do they think the same now ?
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Post by AdTheBad »

"wessex
My paranoid theory

Park n Loop (or should it be Bark n Poop cos it's a pile of doggie droppings ) designed to fail and push posties into industrial action coinciding with privatisation bill being passed.Potential foreign buyers are put off investing due to militancy of angry postal workers.To the rescue arrive senior management who put together a buyout plan which grateful government agrees to.
RM is flogged off for peanuts.Managers make things somewhat easier and profits rocket with help of compliant regulator.

Just a theory mind :Very Happy"

wow, youre good.

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