POLL:BILLY HAYES vs BOB CROW ?

[Exrep]

Seen as Billy Hayes has forgotten about us and doesn't give a flying feck what we are going through on a daily basis it would have to be Crow.

What bugs me about Hayes is that he doesn't listen to the members he represents,he doesn't even listen to the reps FFS.

Instead he sits on his big fat wallet in his ivory tower throwing us peasants scraps of meat .

When was the last time Hayes done a duty,hes out of touch with the members now and hasn't a clue what were going through.

Since this shite agreement was corruptly agreed our T&C have gotten a lot worse,do you ever get that feeling were on our own now.

I really hope this agreement he thought was great because he got 1hr taken off our working week and D2DS into out workload cos Bills been trying for this one since 1995 goes tits up.

[andy2007]

Someone that can engage other bodies that are smarter and backed up by private advisors. Crow this week acted like a child not attending conference because King would be there. "I'm not listening, I'm not listening".Yes, just the sort of figurehead you want heading the CWU then.

So come on then. Who do you think fits the bill?
Is there a current, senior Union man, who you believe is worthy?
If so, who is it, and which Union does he represent?

[BELIAL]

Someone that can engage other bodies that are smarter and backed up by private advisors. Crow this week acted like a child not attending conference because King would be there. "I'm not listening, I'm not listening".Yes, just the sort of figurehead you want heading the CWU then.

Woo nighty ,anyone a bit left field does push your bells.
Have you got a problem

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Someone that can engage other bodies that are smarter and backed up by private advisors. Crow this week acted like a child not attending conference because King would be there. "I'm not listening, I'm not listening".Yes, just the sort of figurehead you want heading the CWU then.

Woo nighty ,anyone a bit left field does push your bells.
Have you got a problem

He may be upset because he's not a duffel coat wearing stereotype. Though to be fair that was originally TMans "thing" http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... el#p121429" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; though NT did get some mileage from it

[dvbuk55]

No point voting because there is only one way to find out:


FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

[stokes11eg]

No point voting because there is only one way to find out:


FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

In your frilly knickers? Don't froget the hanbag.

[dvbuk55]

No point voting because there is only one way to find out:


FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

In your frilly knickers? Don't froget the hanbag.

Right stokesy, there is only so much a transvestight can stand - you will not be getting your knickers back so there

[stokes11eg]

So finally you've come clean about you 'preferences' -----

[Danelectro]

Someone that can engage other bodies that are smarter and backed up by private advisors. Crow this week acted like a child not attending conference because King would be there. "I'm not listening, I'm not listening".Yes, just the sort of figurehead you want heading the CWU then.

Name these other bodies that are smarter and backed up by private advisors ? Or you just having another jethro tull
because you managed to string a few sentences together...

[Martin Walsh]

I know Bob and I obviously know Billy. They are two different chacters , both have been involved at the coal face in the past and Billy was certainly a hard left activist in Liverpool and led many a strike and there is still some video action of the Dras dispute in Liverpool police horse charging the picket lines at Liverpool with Billy leading the pickets.

Now the question I have for you is that Bob is a great speaker and a very funny indivdual and great company but in the RMT he has just as many critics some call him not left enough and certainly some of the left in the RMT tried to get indivduals to run against him. Billy Laws and Pat Swatoka were very strong a few years ago on the left.

Now what Bob is very good at is his threatening of the use of industial action and then more often then not doing the deal. Now this has made him unpopular in some quarters of the RMT as they wanted to take the strike action rather than the deal.

So whilst it may be easy to vote for BOB and dont get me wrong he is a good leader he too has his critics in the RMT , just as much as Billy has in the CWU.

[dvbuk55]

So finally you've come clean about you 'preferences' -----

Well clean is a term I use loosely, and as for preferences.......................you know when you dress up in mens clothes to get in touch with your masculine side...........................................it's only the same for me and DGP............

[Cut Off King]

New postby dingo » Today, 18:55

I know Bob and I obviously know Billy. They are two different chacters , both have been involved at the coal face in the past and Billy was certainly a hard left activist in Liverpool and led many a strike and there is still some video action of the Dras dispute in Liverpool police horse charging the picket lines at Liverpool with Billy leading the pickets.

I just have an image of Billy thinking " Is it lunchtime yet? I could eat a horse. "

[dvbuk55]

New postby dingo » Today, 18:55

I know Bob and I obviously know Billy. They are two different chacters , both have been involved at the coal face in the past and Billy was certainly a hard left activist in Liverpool and led many a strike and there is still some video action of the Dras dispute in Liverpool police horse charging the picket lines at Liverpool with Billy leading the pickets.

I just have an image of Billy thinking " Is it lunchtime yet? I could eat a horse. "

Nowadays it's something smaller but still four legged I think.

[fishtank]

It's a thankless task union leadership (apart from the money ).
The members want fighting talk every time you appear in public but the media are just waiting to label you a 1970s dinosaur.
I don't think Billy's personality suits the media circus...how important that is could be argued all night.
For this poll to make any sense it would have been better to choose someone who could actually replace Billy....now you're struggling.

[dvbuk55]

But is it leadership?

The Queen is the titular head of the nation but has absolutely no power whatsoever with regards to national policy. Many would ask if there was no Royal Family would the nation be better off and if there was no Billy would the union be worse off or are they both an unnecessary luxury in these austere times.