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have your DOM ignored the D2D agreement
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Straight4ward
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Re: have your DOM ignored the D2D agreement
Sadly, our union rep is one of the many in our office that come in early to throw them all off at the start of the week.
There are a handful of us doing by the guidelines and, purely speaking for myself, I actually prefer doing this way. I used to break my balls trying to get them all thrown off and delivered within a day or two. Now I just do 20%* a day and find it a lot less stressful. *Saturday is only a 7 hour day for us at present, so we’ve decided to do our D2Ds Mon-Fri.
There are a handful of us doing by the guidelines and, purely speaking for myself, I actually prefer doing this way. I used to break my balls trying to get them all thrown off and delivered within a day or two. Now I just do 20%* a day and find it a lot less stressful. *Saturday is only a 7 hour day for us at present, so we’ve decided to do our D2Ds Mon-Fri.
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chunk
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Re: have your DOM ignored the D2D agreement
Same here d2d's in peoples frames I never see them go in.
Asked our manager if we could get the frames marked up in segments as other offices are doing.
answer "just manage them yourselves"
a lot of postman are knocking them all out by Wednesday(those on the easier rounds)
people covering another duty for one day are not doing 17%.
many in the office still clinging to the notion of an early finish Saturday
do all there d2d Mon to Friday.
Asked our manager if we could get the frames marked up in segments as other offices are doing.
answer "just manage them yourselves"
a lot of postman are knocking them all out by Wednesday(those on the easier rounds)
people covering another duty for one day are not doing 17%.
many in the office still clinging to the notion of an early finish Saturday
do all there d2d Mon to Friday.
I'm a postman-and i know where you live.....
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alci4
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Re: have your DOM ignored the D2D agreement
A few weeks ago our union rep said in a team brief that he wanted to get door to door coded so that they could be run through the sequencing machines so can someone please explain to me if the union rep is suggesting this (he is a machine op now) how d2d in the workload is supposed to help save our jobs
another total fook up by the union.
not just sold down the river but we are having our heads held under it 
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chunk
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Re: have your DOM ignored the D2D agreement
Maybe im missing something here, i don't understand why non addressed leaflets should be put through a machine?alci4 wrote:A few weeks ago our union rep said in a team brief that he wanted to get door to door coded so that they could be run through the sequencing machines so can someone please explain to me if the union rep is suggesting this (he is a machine op now) how d2d in the workload is supposed to help save our jobs
another total fook up by the union.
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not just sold down the river but we are having our heads held under it
Extra costs all around.
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Straight4ward
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Re: have your DOM ignored the D2D agreement
You would run the leaflets through a collating machine. (Not sure that a WSM could handle the differing sizes and shapes.)
I would imagine that this will be the next step that RM will take to "save costs and improve efficiency".
I would imagine that this will be the next step that RM will take to "save costs and improve efficiency".
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chunk
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Re: have your DOM ignored the D2D agreement
I understand collating thats a logical step that we have been anticipating.Straight4ward wrote:You would run the leaflets through a collating machine. (Not sure that a WSM could handle the differing sizes and shapes.)
I would imagine that this will be the next step that RM will take to "save costs and improve efficiency".
im sceptical that three small items collated together and shrink wrapped could be classed as one allowing room for another 5.
its obvious i dont trust RM.
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AnnexeB
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Re: have your DOM ignored the D2D agreement
I dont think coded D2D will come in. Working the CSS machines, even coded mail can be rejected. Thankfully, for the postie, if this occurs, the letters can be manually sorted, but if D2D were to be rejected because of poor coding, then with no address to read, chaos would ensue !
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Exrep
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Re: have your DOM ignored the D2D agreement
I think 95% of us know regardless of what agreement is in place R/M will do as they please.
The only people that swallow this shite about a new area is the CWU hierachy im a rep as some of you are aware and R/M havent changed one bit.
We havnt had D2D placed into workload yet either and this is something im arguing the toss about. The time of reps isnt going to be taken up by office revision its going to be taken up writing numerous letters of disagreement.
Unfortunatley for us blue shirts R/M are very well aware that the CWU has dropped a major bollock with this agreement and they know that the work force isnt happy with there union. Isnt it a pity the CWU arnt singing from the same hym sheet of the people it represents.
If DIMS are ignoring the D2D agreement and this being the first one they should have got write which maybe would of shown us they are serious about a new relationship can you imagine over the months/years what else they are going to ignore.
Up plop creek without a paddle springs to mind. Enjoy the ride boys and girls its going to be a dumpy one.
The only people that swallow this shite about a new area is the CWU hierachy im a rep as some of you are aware and R/M havent changed one bit.
We havnt had D2D placed into workload yet either and this is something im arguing the toss about. The time of reps isnt going to be taken up by office revision its going to be taken up writing numerous letters of disagreement.
Unfortunatley for us blue shirts R/M are very well aware that the CWU has dropped a major bollock with this agreement and they know that the work force isnt happy with there union. Isnt it a pity the CWU arnt singing from the same hym sheet of the people it represents.
If DIMS are ignoring the D2D agreement and this being the first one they should have got write which maybe would of shown us they are serious about a new relationship can you imagine over the months/years what else they are going to ignore.
Up plop creek without a paddle springs to mind. Enjoy the ride boys and girls its going to be a dumpy one.
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eian687
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Re: have your DOM ignored the D2D agreement
you are right
R M have moved the goal posts
and now with the unions help they are moving the pitch
R M have moved the goal posts
and now with the unions help they are moving the pitch
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post567
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Re: have your DOM ignored the D2D agreement
They always move the goal posts.Got the royal mail dossier on van share in march saying they wanted volunteer new drivers. Got the new one now saying if you have not got a reasonable excuse and you still refuse to drive you will be taken down the conduct code!If they would of done their homework in the first place it was never going to work unless both people in a van share driveeian687 wrote:you are right
R M have moved the goal posts
and now with the unions help they are moving the pitch
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POSTMAN
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Re: have your DOM ignored the D2D agreement
Are you sure?? Have a look here...post567 wrote:They always move the goal posts.Got the royal mail dossier on van share in march saying they wanted volunteer new drivers. Got the new one now saying if you have not got a reasonable excuse and you still refuse to drive you will be taken down the conduct code!If they would of done their homework in the first place it was never going to work unless both people in a van share driveeian687 wrote:you are right
R M have moved the goal posts
and now with the unions help they are moving the pitch
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I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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beachy head
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Re: have your DOM ignored the D2D agreement
some posties this week have 5 lots of households on there round at our office and like other offices given no xtra time to prep or deliver them .
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Big Daz
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Re: have your DOM ignored the D2D agreement
Have they needed time?
RM are allowed to absorb if time is there to do that.
RM are allowed to absorb if time is there to do that.
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robbiet
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Re: have your DOM ignored the D2D agreement
If anyone likes comedy you should be in my office on a saturday afternoon or even sunday when some of the idiots I work with throw there D2D's in ready for monday. Our DOM loves it and when you say anything to him about it he just smiles! 
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creedscat
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Re: have your DOM ignored the D2D agreement
Well in our office some of the spanners are taking them home and prepping them together. The gaffers have told them its ok.