Any News from Bournemouth

[TrueBlueTerrier]

[mcboing boing]

Ding dong going on, London and Bristol laid into Ward, they are not supporting the deal, his face is like thunder. York just said if u expect people to sacrifice money for the greater good then u should as well.

Message seems to be u have to make a sacrifice to protect your long term future, hasn't gone down well as people on the floor say the deal for deliveries is just not good enough.

Dave Wilshire for GS

[Big Daz]

Ding dong going on, London and Bristol laid into Ward, they are not supporting the deal, his face is like thunder. York just said if u expect people to sacrifice money for the greater good then u should as well.

Message seems to be u have to make a sacrifice to protect your long term future, hasn't gone down well as people on the floor say the deal for deliveries is just not good enough.

Dave Wilshire for GS

Make that DGS, if hes that good we want him where he can take a active role in postal industrial issues

[Cheetah]

"Ding dong going on, London and Bristol laid into Ward, they are not supporting the deal, his face is like thunder. York just said if u expect people to sacrifice money for the greater good then u should as well.

Message seems to be u have to make a sacrifice to protect your long term future, hasn't gone down well as people on the floor say the deal for deliveries is just not good enough."

I have heard that reps have been told they must "toe the party line" and sell us the agreement - I have news for them - we are not shopping - we are dropping - and soon we may be stopping.

Unlike the RM management structure where those at the top are only told what they want to hear from those below we are supposed to have a democratic union structure and freedom of expression. I hope the reps who have made the journey to Bournemouth used the opportunity to remind our Union leaders that we should have been consulted - not insulted.

Couldn't have put it better myself Rhino ..... Thank goodness some one at the conference is fighting the corner of the delivery side because we are the ones taking all the hits with this wonderfull deal...... Like you point out we are the union and those high ranks are there to fight all workers corner and ensure fairation to all!!!! The talk in our office is of a mass exodus from the union and this may postpone their decision if they can see our side being put forward and we still have a democratic right and it's not just a done deal.

[welshy808]

some of the Area Reps and other Branch Officials must be back from Bournemouth by now, Could you please give us an update on the two day briefing.

Thanks

[fedupwithislot]

"Ding dong going on, London and Bristol laid into Ward, they are not supporting the deal, his face is like thunder. York just said if u expect people to sacrifice money for the greater good then u should as well.

Message seems to be u have to make a sacrifice to protect your long term future, hasn't gone down well as people on the floor say the deal for deliveries is just not good enough."

I have heard that reps have been told they must "toe the party line" and sell us the agreement - I have news for them - we are not shopping - we are dropping - and soon we may be stopping.

Unlike the RM management structure where those at the top are only told what they want to hear from those below we are supposed to have a democratic union structure and freedom of expression. I hope the reps who have made the journey to Bournemouth used the opportunity to remind our Union leaders that we should have been consulted - not insulted.

[dvbuk55]

I just wonder what DW and BH will do if they have to go cap in hand to RM and actually be truthful for once and say listen we can't get them to agree - we really are going to have to negotiate this time instead of that 4 month charade to get us over Christmas.

[camphill888]

The news from Bournemouth is the Billy and Dave have ben sacked.

[Cut Off King]

Posted elsewhere, but says it all

[belle smith]

Posted elsewhere, but says it all

you do holiday with some strange people.

[ClaretStevo]

To be honest i bet most reps feel like us. The only problem is if we vote no and go back out then what? and as already said our office which held 100% last time will fail this time.

Im sure the guys from Bournemouth have been told get a yes vote or its the end for the Union, and they will be split as they know its a bag of crap

[Ahebban]

It would be fair to say that the debate today at the National Briefing closed with the audience far from convinced. Yes, there were one or two lively moments/exchanges between the floor and the platform.

Dave and Bob presented their case with confidence over the two days and answered as best they could on the questions and points put forward. Billy, unfortunately, rambled through his piece, going off topic etc which is becoming his trademark it seems!

There appears to be little room to manouvre, especially after 4 months, so it will be interesting what decisions the Branch meetings come too and take into the Units.

And, yes, the Briefing closed with Dave Ward calling for support of the Agreement.

[belle smith]

To be honest i bet most reps feel like us. The only problem is if we vote no and go back out then what? and as already said our office which held 100% last time will fail this time.

Im sure the guys from Bournemouth have been told get a yes vote or its the end for the Union, and they will be split as they know its a bag of crap

We don't necasseraliy have to go back on strike............some people have said that RM will just introduce all the things that they want anyway...........fine let them try.....it will be a whole lot harder without an agreement........we are on our 3rd DOM since our pegasus revision (less than a year ago) and we are getting our 4th soon.... i've seen all haunched over their computers looking stressed.....this is not just tough on us and your DOMs and lineos will be devastated by that approach they are on the front line the same as us.

[BELIAL]

And, yes, the Briefing closed with Dave Ward calling for support of the Agreement.

Oh dear. So 18 days on strike and the members are asked to vote for something that leaves them worse off than before. You don't think he's been knobbled do you?

[london sub]

To be honest i bet most reps feel like us. The only problem is if we vote no and go back out then what? and as already said our office which held 100% last time will fail this time.

Im sure the guys from Bournemouth have been told get a yes vote or its the end for the Union, and they will be split as they know its a bag of crap

In my eyes the union is dead in the water! If thats the best deal that they can give its members then i will give them a pay cut by not paying my subs. Its ok for the union to put the price up on subs, but its certainly not ok to have my wages slashed, by some crazy deal...because quite frankly thats what it is CRAZY!!!!