traffic figures , the lie

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I think someone is making a lot of phone calls to these companies on our behalf. It makes me wonder who is making these calls.

Who cares if some of the mail we deliver has not been directly asked for by the recipient ? Screwfix and companies like them pay Royal Mail postage to deliver their catalogues. Some of that revenue pays your wages. Are you really saying you want want RM to turn business away during a recession ????

Reminds me of a BR employee who complained his job would be 'a lot easier if it weren't for all the passengers we have to deal with'

Spoken like true office (indoor) worker.
A postman would instantly would grasp what jack. m is getting at- surges of any heavy item eg screwfix turn regular deliveries into nightmares.
for example if only 10% of my drops had a screwfix on the same day that would be 50 catalogs
about an extra 30kg at least.
bulk mailings kill us at least customer postings are random and therefore spread out.

[Jack Mehoff]

I think someone is making a lot of phone calls to these companies on our behalf. It makes me wonder who is making these calls.

Who cares if some of the mail we deliver has not been directly asked for by the recipient ? Screwfix and companies like them pay Royal Mail postage to deliver their catalogues. Some of that revenue pays your wages. Are you really saying you want want RM to turn business away during a recession ????

Reminds me of a BR employee who complained his job would be 'a lot easier if it weren't for all the passengers we have to deal with'

I'm assuming you are either a DOM or a future contestant for Britains Strongest Man.
I'd like to see how you would fare if you had to carry an extra 30-40kg extra in your pouch or even worse...on a bike.
You need to wake up and smell the coffee my friend.

[Carnoustie]

I think someone is making a lot of phone calls to these companies on our behalf. It makes me wonder who is making these calls.

Who cares if some of the mail we deliver has not been directly asked for by the recipient ? Screwfix and companies like them pay Royal Mail postage to deliver their catalogues. Some of that revenue pays your wages. Are you really saying you want want RM to turn business away during a recession ????

Reminds me of a BR employee who complained his job would be 'a lot easier if it weren't for all the passengers we have to deal with'

I'm assuming you are either a DOM or a future contestant for Britains Strongest Man.
I'd like to see how you would fare if you had to carry an extra 30-40kg extra in your pouch or even worse...on a bike.
You need to wake up and smell the coffee my friend.

Err, no, I'm afraid it's your olfactory sensors that need to get acquainted with the Nescafe.

Stand back from the debate for a second and imagine how it looks to someone outside the postal industry to see postmen complaining about the type or amount of mail they have to deliver. Is that not like a bricklayer complaining about all the bricks he has to handle in his job ? Give him the right equipment, and his job can be made a lot less strenuous.

The issue of the weightier items having to be CARRIED is the real problem, not the weight of the individual items. It's exactly why Royal Mail needs to spend the 1.2billion loan it got from the government, on things such as those pram-like trolleys already in use in some areas, which mean the 'extra 30-40kg' is conveyed on wheels, not on the postmen's shoulders (often on a rickety old bike).

Changing times and a shift in the mix of catalogues / packets and letters require equipment designed for that type of mix. Hence the need for modernisation. The dispute is about how best to implement the changes that this business - and postmen's spinal cords - sorely need. Preferably with the CWU fully involved in all changes - such as the better delivery equipment described above.

Though there will doubtless still be numptys who will not use the trolleys, and jump in their car 'because it's quicker and easier for me to carry the stuff on my back, innit?'

[BELIAL]

I think someone is making a lot of phone calls to these companies on our behalf. It makes me wonder who is making these calls.

Who cares if some of the mail we deliver has not been directly asked for by the recipient ? Screwfix and companies like them pay Royal Mail postage to deliver their catalogues. Some of that revenue pays your wages. Are you really saying you want want RM to turn business away during a recession ????

Reminds me of a BR employee who complained his job would be 'a lot easier if it weren't for all the passengers we have to deal with'

I'm assuming you are either a DOM or a future contestant for Britains Strongest Man.
I'd like to see how you would fare if you had to carry an extra 30-40kg extra in your pouch or even worse...on a bike.
You need to wake up and smell the coffee my friend.

Err, no, I'm afraid it's your olfactory sensors that need to get acquainted with the Nescafe.

Stand back from the debate for a second and imagine how it looks to someone outside the postal industry to see postmen complaining about the type or amount of mail they have to deliver. Is that not like a bricklayer complaining about all the bricks he has to handle in his job ? Give him the right equipment, and his job can be made a lot less strenuous.

The issue of the weightier items having to be CARRIED is the real problem, not the weight of the individual items. It's exactly why Royal Mail needs to spend the 1.2billion loan it got from the government, on things such as those pram-like trolleys already in use in some areas, which mean the 'extra 30-40kg' is conveyed on wheels, not on the postmen's shoulders (often on a rickety old bike).

Changing times and a shift in the mix of catalogues / packets and letters require equipment designed for that type of mix. Hence the need for modernisation. The dispute is about how best to implement the changes that this business - and postmen's spinal cords - sorely need. Preferably with the CWU fully involved in all changes - such as the better delivery equipment described above.

Though there will doubtless still be numptys who will not use the trolleys, and jump in their car 'because it's quicker and easier for me to carry the stuff on my back, innit?'

Actually Carnoustie ,think you may be surprised to learn that no of items delivered in DO's ain't down at all. Seems like some firms may be trying to out sell the downturn, plus your right about the extra weight,so all in all good news for the ballot

[Carnoustie]

Actually Carnoustie ,think you may be surprised to learn that no of items delivered in DO's ain't down at all. Seems like some firms may be trying to out sell the downturn, plus your right about the extra weight,so all in all good news for the ballot

No, I never believe RM's 'volumes are down 10%' propaganda. But, downstream access has hit the upstream volumes (Mail Centres and RDCs), though. We would be grateful for more work as it looks like more VRs (or worse) are going to be needed

RM's bold claim reminds me of the publicity posters one of the train companies displayed proudly in the first year after privatisation. The bold headline read: 97%* of our trains ran on time last month or some such bullsh!t

When you looked at the foot of the poster to see the small print, it read *of trains that ran. So they weren't counting those that were cancelled and did not run !!! So commuters who had, say, four of 16 peak-hour trains cancelled were being told their quality of service was near-perfect

[BELIAL]

Looks like a lot of your work might be being absorbed by DO's then. Cos sure as eggs is eggs a lot of this DSA stuff that comes in labeled WALKSORTED is nothing of the kind