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:Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause
:nana :nana :nana :nana :nana
Absolutely delighted Kay :dance Really glad to hear you will get justice at last
after those vindictive b@st@rds putting you through all that grief for a year for nothing.
I hope there will be some repercussions for them, though I won't hold my breath.
But your strength and detirmination have been an example to us all. Well done!!! :Very Happy :Very Happy
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Post by Dynamo 2 »

Well done Kay, really pleased for you, it goes without saying, the need for us to have faith in the union ........Here's to all The Bristol 3, back in the saddle again, well done to everyone involved in the CWU in Bristol!!!

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BELIAL wrote:Says a lot about the management mindset within RM. Obviously not a hope of succeeding at ET yet still willing to pay through the nose to keep up the intimidation and fear factors until the very last second.
Vindictive and malicious in appearance ,hardly chimes with the stated desire of a new spirit of cooperation and reconciliation. Who thinks this kind of action boosts morale ?
very nasty and arrogant - couldn't agree more - someone said the same on the City Football message board - they've always been difficult when say you had a back claim but not as bad as now :lfo :cfo - long line of cause and effect
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Post by kay_thebigbird »

Oh good dont let em forget the pension and D2Ds either! Not having a laugh but run it by the suits as well. If its a NO than so be it but if they (RM) want it to go away? Who knows? could be talking loadsa money? Nothing ventured nothing gained. ( I would not make it a deal breaker though!) Good luck.

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They have to pay back everything d2d's,pension,cwu subs,pbs,all bonuses,full backpay it's as if you never left ,the list of all money owing is still overseen by the lawyers,may I also add that the CWU in Bristol & London Headquarters have been brilliant worth every penny spent, also Simpson Millar solictors they really know there legal stuff, What was the point of all these dismissals now that all 3 of us is back to work,absolute joke. :confused :confused
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Post by BELIAL »

The point was, know your place. Any payment to compensate for these bully boy tactics?

Not suggesting you expose yourself to any more stress,just think RM decision makers should shoulder the consequences for what in effect appears to be Vexatious Litigation, there is precedent :Very Happy
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BELIAL wrote:The point was, know your place. Any payment to compensate for these bully boy tactics?

Not suggesting you expose yourself to any more stress,just think RM decision makers should shoulder the consequences for what in effect appears to be Vexatious Litigation, there is precedent :Very Happy
Well I think we will be pretty safe now, union said they will leave us well alone now, otherwise it's blatant victimization,but saying that I would not want any of you guys to go through what us in Bristol & burslem have gone through & are still going through.
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Post by Beforenineoclockgoodone »

Sorry, but can someone tell me whats happened here? :d'oh!
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Post by kay_thebigbird »

Beforenineoclockgoodone wrote:Sorry, but can someone tell me whats happened here? :d'oh!
you have'nt heard about the Bristol 3,posties from Bristol sacked a year ago on false allegations made up by a RM line manager.
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Post by BELIAL »

Could be a good chance to purge the system K .Sometimes putting it all down in words is a good release ,And move on wiser. Again, well done,respect due :Applause :Applause
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Post by andy2007 »

Are you going to get a public apology from them (in the Press for example)?
If not, why not?
They've put you through a year of stress, and Legal battles. The LEAST they could do, is publish an apology in the Press. After all, there's always the risk of mud sticking, if they don't.
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andy2007 wrote:Are you going to get a public apology from them (in the Press for example)?
If not, why not?
They've put you through a year of stress, and Legal battles. The LEAST they could do, is publish an apology in the Press. After all, there's always the risk of mud sticking, if they don't.
Andy - I knew RM would practically settle on the Courtroom steps - they've only done it as a damage limitation exercise as they knew they'd get shafted in the media - RM apologise :chuckle :chuckle :chuckle

Crozier would get shafted for his salary and bonuses being New Labour's hired hand , it's just a game to these people and that's all it will be , their gamble is to hope someone rolls over and dies for them .

It's a result in a way for them as they'd be forced to admit they have a problem . Royal Mail do crisis after crisis management and siege mentality management - end of ! - if anything Senior Managers would say they are not backed up enough by Brown and New Labour .

RM DO NOT do planning .

RM would just blame Brown , the EEC , Postcon - RM have never done responsibility even before :lfo & :cfo - a very negative style - they'd just say there's pressure and no time - even with cock up after cock up .

They'd just say there is this plan to have whatever , whichever by whatever time .

At one time with their fit ups - there would be a scathing report on local management , the union would eventually get someone back - the CWU would publish something about nasty rogue managers BUT it stayed within the PO .

However it gave Senior & Area Mangers a problem - if they threw local managers to the wolves - they'd be less likely to feed more senior managers with what they wanted to hear so the dictat was passed to back local managers up , no matter what .

On Planet RM - everyone is singing from the same hymn sheet - a result - very bombastic and simplistic but :chuckle

Firstly even with all this ruthless commercialism - RM still have a management structure that runs for the benefit of it's managers , playing politics instead of running a business . With a 70's management control and a very top down regimented style which most businesses have rejected - everything is done by dictat - they don't manage at all - they do what they are told , it also means there is not many opportunities to impress - so when somebody is looking for brownie points - silly things happen - end of .

To the very last , RM parroted the lines they were told to parrot out - " Our Conduct Code is agreed with the CWU " - that's too evasive , disingenious and too economical with the truth , the Union are adamant that the H&B policy is fundamentally corrupt - there is an element of union bashing - that's why their assumptions are worded so obscurely and vaguely

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Belai is right about knowing your place - if Senior Managers call for a culture change - this is how they'll get that culture change and the "sweetheart " union they wanted before those bitter strikes - which there is still a lot of bad feeling about .

If DTI Minister Hutton wants a "transformation " - this is part of the transformation even it means some RM managers end up in court as often as some petty criminals .
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Post by bogstandard »

I'm realy pleased for you, hope all goes well.
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Post by tommymac »

Thats great news Kay. The Burslem guys send their best wishes. :nana :nana :nana
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Post by brothermagrew »

johnnyp wrote:Great news kay :Very Happy justice has been done :nana :dance :Applause
Sorry johnnyp

But I don't see that justice has been done, why for one are RM insistent that the individual or individuals concerned have to be moved from their current delivery offices to another DO of their choice. Let us not forget that the Bristol 3 were sacked due to the false allegations of a RM manager. If anyone should be moved it should be the perpetrator of those false allegations and not the innocent parties.

Yes a result of sorts for Kay but justice no way!
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brothermagrew wrote:
johnnyp wrote:Great news kay :Very Happy justice has been done :nana :dance :Applause
Sorry johnnyp

But I don't see that justice has been done, why for one are RM insistent that the individual or individuals concerned have to be moved from their current delivery offices to another DO of their choice. Let us not forget that the Bristol 3 were sacked due to the false allegations of a RM manager. If anyone should be moved it should be the perpetrator of those false allegations and not the innocent parties.

Yes a result of sorts for Kay but justice no way!
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