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"Leader" Experiences

Postal workers discussion forum. Discuss the day to day life in a Blue Shirt.
TopperGas
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Re: "Leader" Experiences

Post by TopperGas »

Sounds like the official title should be "mug" if they are doing all that on a basic postie's salary.
Frankie15
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Re: "Leader" Experiences

Post by Frankie15 »

Why would anyone want to do all those things though is beyond me
Jaggs
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Re: "Leader" Experiences

Post by Jaggs »

SillySinStorm wrote:
05 Jul 2025, 09:40
Looking for experiences of others that fill a leader type role in their office. In my case, i don't quite qualify for leader allowance, but do a lot of jobs that apparently aren't seen as important enough to attract an extra payment. I look after ORA. I look after Route Manager. I look after FDS and SISO. I run collections in the evening and make sure all collections are completed, and sort any that are missed. All on the wage of an OPG, but with added stress and responsibility. I also cover manage saturdays and dual role as PHG as they have every saturday off. All a bit much some days. I enjoy the job but feel a bit overloaded at times. Is anyone else in the same boat?
ORA and Route Manager should be done by a workplace coach. I don't know what FDS is but SISO should be done by a manager. For the collections you should get the OPG to OSG allowance and for the Saturday if you are doing the managers role you should get an OPG to lowest grade managers allowance.

So if your office has work place coaches they should be doing some of what you are doing and for the other stuff you should either not be doing it or being paid for doing it.
postslippete
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Re: "Leader" Experiences

Post by postslippete »

Jaggs wrote:
05 Jul 2025, 19:44

ORA and Route Manager should be done by a workplace coach. I don't know what FDS is but SISO should be done by a manager. For the collections you should get the OPG to OSG allowance and for the Saturday if you are doing the managers role you should get an OPG to lowest grade managers allowance.

So if your office has work place coaches they should be doing some of what you are doing and for the other stuff you should either not be doing it or being paid for doing it.

Yeah, in all honesty I didn't actually know what that was! But if they are doing a managers role then they should be looking at actually applying for a managers role as they clearly have some experience of it.
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
Rumple
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Re: "Leader" Experiences

Post by Rumple »

SillySinStorm wrote:
05 Jul 2025, 10:19
SkiSunday wrote:
05 Jul 2025, 10:13
SillySinStorm wrote:
05 Jul 2025, 09:57
SkiSunday wrote:
05 Jul 2025, 09:42
If you don't like your duty just do a normal OPG duty, ie walks.
Are you a leader?
No, are you an OPG?
I should have made it a bit clearer that i wanted the experiences of other leaders. The title and mention in the main body clearly wasn't enough for you. I'll use pictures and crayons next time :nana

To answer your question, i'm no longer an OPG, but do delivery when the need arises. I'd probably do your own walk more efficiently and with no complaints :cuppa
Have a great weekend.
What is your current official job title?
TopperGas
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Re: "Leader" Experiences

Post by TopperGas »

"FDS" in the context of Royal Mail typically refers to Fletcher Data Services Ltd, an approved data capture and indexer for Royal Mail since 1996."

Sounds like the system managers use to track the Tracked etc delivery items?
ted_e_bear
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Re: "Leader" Experiences

Post by ted_e_bear »

Frankie15 wrote:
05 Jul 2025, 19:13
Why would anyone want to do all those things though is beyond me
It's preferable to doing a duty ?
Woody84
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Re: "Leader" Experiences

Post by Woody84 »

What is OSG and are you entitled to the £ if you cover the full time collections person once a week?

I’m guessing no :chuckle
BELIAL
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Re: "Leader" Experiences

Post by BELIAL »

Take me to your leader
Bye
k979aaa
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Re: "Leader" Experiences

Post by k979aaa »

So you take responsibility and when the s**t hit's the fan which it will for nothing smart move.
Barnacle
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Re: "Leader" Experiences

Post by Barnacle »

ted_e_bear wrote:
05 Jul 2025, 18:04
Clappedoutpostie wrote:
05 Jul 2025, 17:42
If your doing all this what the hell are your “managers” doing all day?
Good question :crazy:
Frankie15 wrote:
05 Jul 2025, 17:49
What's a leader? Is it a workplace coach? In all my 28 years I've never heard of a leader!!
Me neither sounds like a cross between former Phg/trainee manager/workplace coach/managers pet office brown noser etc.
Exactly.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
SillySinStorm
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Re: "Leader" Experiences

Post by SillySinStorm »

Jaggs wrote:
05 Jul 2025, 19:44
SillySinStorm wrote:
05 Jul 2025, 09:40
Looking for experiences of others that fill a leader type role in their office. In my case, i don't quite qualify for leader allowance, but do a lot of jobs that apparently aren't seen as important enough to attract an extra payment. I look after ORA. I look after Route Manager. I look after FDS and SISO. I run collections in the evening and make sure all collections are completed, and sort any that are missed. All on the wage of an OPG, but with added stress and responsibility. I also cover manage saturdays and dual role as PHG as they have every saturday off. All a bit much some days. I enjoy the job but feel a bit overloaded at times. Is anyone else in the same boat?
ORA and Route Manager should be done by a workplace coach. I don't know what FDS is but SISO should be done by a manager. For the collections you should get the OPG to OSG allowance and for the Saturday if you are doing the managers role you should get an OPG to lowest grade managers allowance.

So if your office has work place coaches they should be doing some of what you are doing and for the other stuff you should either not be doing it or being paid for doing it.
Thanks for the in-depth reply.
Barnacle
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Re: "Leader" Experiences

Post by Barnacle »

SillySinStorm wrote:
05 Jul 2025, 09:40
Looking for experiences of others that fill a leader type role in their office. In my case, i don't quite qualify for leader allowance, but do a lot of jobs that apparently aren't seen as important enough to attract an extra payment. I look after ORA. I look after Route Manager. I look after FDS and SISO. I run collections in the evening and make sure all collections are completed, and sort any that are missed. All on the wage of an OPG, but with added stress and responsibility. I also cover manage saturdays and dual role as PHG as they have every saturday off. All a bit much some days. I enjoy the job but feel a bit overloaded at times. Is anyone else in the same boat?
If you want to be paid extra for being the managers dog’s body, apply to be a work coach or a cover manager. Those are the proper routes.

They won’t pay you extra if you are willingly doing it for free. Being a brown nose will not get you promoted. You have to apply for the job.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
SillySinStorm
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Re: "Leader" Experiences

Post by SillySinStorm »

Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2025, 07:12
SillySinStorm wrote:
05 Jul 2025, 09:40
Looking for experiences of others that fill a leader type role in their office. In my case, i don't quite qualify for leader allowance, but do a lot of jobs that apparently aren't seen as important enough to attract an extra payment. I look after ORA. I look after Route Manager. I look after FDS and SISO. I run collections in the evening and make sure all collections are completed, and sort any that are missed. All on the wage of an OPG, but with added stress and responsibility. I also cover manage saturdays and dual role as PHG as they have every saturday off. All a bit much some days. I enjoy the job but feel a bit overloaded at times. Is anyone else in the same boat?
If you want to be paid extra for being the managers dog’s body, apply to be a work coach or a cover manager. Those are the proper routes.

They won’t pay you extra if you are willingly doing it for free. Being a brown nose will not get you promoted. You have to apply for the job.
There really are quite a few sad old men on here. Is everything okay at home? Brown nose indeed. Grow up.
SillySinStorm
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Re: "Leader" Experiences

Post by SillySinStorm »

Jaggs wrote:
05 Jul 2025, 19:44
SillySinStorm wrote:
05 Jul 2025, 09:40
Looking for experiences of others that fill a leader type role in their office. In my case, i don't quite qualify for leader allowance, but do a lot of jobs that apparently aren't seen as important enough to attract an extra payment. I look after ORA. I look after Route Manager. I look after FDS and SISO. I run collections in the evening and make sure all collections are completed, and sort any that are missed. All on the wage of an OPG, but with added stress and responsibility. I also cover manage saturdays and dual role as PHG as they have every saturday off. All a bit much some days. I enjoy the job but feel a bit overloaded at times. Is anyone else in the same boat?
ORA and Route Manager should be done by a workplace coach. I don't know what FDS is but SISO should be done by a manager. For the collections you should get the OPG to OSG allowance and for the Saturday if you are doing the managers role you should get an OPG to lowest grade managers allowance.

So if your office has work place coaches they should be doing some of what you are doing and for the other stuff you should either not be doing it or being paid for doing it.
What is OSG, exactly?