Becoming royal mail manager

[tramssirhc]

So what is the process in becoming a manager at royal mali? Obviously you would speak to your manager and find out but before that does anyone on here have any info?

My questions are really:

What do trainee managers get payed? (yes at the very bottom entry point of management.)

Is it really difficult to end up being a DOM on a good wage?

Is there lots of competition?

I have a feeling a lot of these trainee managers just remain at this level witout progressing up the ladder is this true?

The reason I ask I believe it's time to move on to pastures new and I would like to have a go at management. Obviously the first step would be looking close to home where I am already employed and on a stable income. Also looking at the career paths Aldi and like offer..

Is there an opportunity to move into management? Have you considered the workplace coach role?

No chance, the managers favourite gets to be the workplace coach.

Whats the CWU doing about that? The union was fully involved in the relaunch of the WPC's.

[tramssirhc]

So what is the process in becoming a manager at royal mali? Obviously you would speak to your manager and find out but before that does anyone on here have any info?

My questions are really:

What do trainee managers get payed? (yes at the very bottom entry point of management.)

Is it really difficult to end up being a DOM on a good wage?

Is there lots of competition?

I have a feeling a lot of these trainee managers just remain at this level witout progressing up the ladder is this true?

The reason I ask I believe it's time to move on to pastures new and I would like to have a go at management. Obviously the first step would be looking close to home where I am already employed and on a stable income. Also looking at the career paths Aldi and like offer..

Is there an opportunity to move into management? Have you considered the workplace coach role?

They do less than managers and that’s saying something.

What's the CWU doing about it? The union was fully involved in the WPC relaunch and the rep should be ensuring the WPC is released to do the role.

[Perseus]

No one wants the WPC role in ours.
You certainly wouldn’t be getting money for nothing.

Why do people grudge those doing it the money though? Is it coming out your own pocket?

[chickenwittle]

No one wants the WPC role in ours.
You certainly wouldn’t be getting money for nothing.

Why do people grudge those doing it the money though? Is it coming out your own pocket?

Is it right that someone earns £44 a week more than everyone else for doing nothing, because that’s what happens in my office.

[Pidleypoo]

We’ve got a wpc that went onto dpr’s about a year and half ago and they all start later and somehow they’re still a wpc

[tramssirhc]

No one wants the WPC role in ours.
You certainly wouldn’t be getting money for nothing.

Why do people grudge those doing it the money though? Is it coming out your own pocket?

Is it right that someone earns £44 a week more than everyone else for doing nothing, because that’s what happens in my office.

If that's what's happening it's the CWU's fault. There is absolutely no reason why the WPC would not have anything to do. There's a weekly pro-forma of jobs the WPC must do. It's not money for nothing.

[tramssirhc]

We’ve got a wpc that went onto dpr’s about a year and half ago and they all start later and somehow they’re still a wpc

What's the union doing about it? There is also absolutely no reason why the WPC being on DPR's would prevent the jobs the WPC must do being done,

[chickenwittle]

No one wants the WPC role in ours.
You certainly wouldn’t be getting money for nothing.

Why do people grudge those doing it the money though? Is it coming out your own pocket?

Is it right that someone earns £44 a week more than everyone else for doing nothing, because that’s what happens in my office.

If that's what's happening it's the CWU's fault. There is absolutely no reason why the WPC would not have anything to do. There's a weekly pro-forma of jobs the WPC must do. It's not money for nothing.

It’s always the CWUs fault in your eyes , I would say it’s the managers fault as he’s not utilising the coaches for what they are paid to do .

[chickenwittle]

We’ve got a wpc that went onto dpr’s about a year and half ago and they all start later and somehow they’re still a wpc

What's the union doing about it? There is also absolutely no reason why the WPC being on DPR's would prevent the jobs the WPC must do being done,

You do know the union don’t run the company on a day to day basis don’t you .

[Perseus]

No one wants the WPC role in ours.
You certainly wouldn’t be getting money for nothing.

Why do people grudge those doing it the money though? Is it coming out your own pocket?

Is it right that someone earns £44 a week more than everyone else for doing nothing, because that’s what happens in my office.

My point is why does it bother other staff so much?
Why don’t you do it?

[Jefferson Starfish]

No one wants the WPC role in ours.
You certainly wouldn’t be getting money for nothing.

Why do people grudge those doing it the money though? Is it coming out your own pocket?

Is it right that someone earns £44 a week more than everyone else for doing nothing, because that’s what happens in my office.

If that's what's happening it's the CWU's fault. There is absolutely no reason why the WPC would not have anything to do. There's a weekly pro-forma of jobs the WPC must do. It's not money for nothing.

RM pays the £44 per week.
It's their fault if they don't get their monies worth.

[chickenwittle]

No one wants the WPC role in ours.
You certainly wouldn’t be getting money for nothing.

Why do people grudge those doing it the money though? Is it coming out your own pocket?

Is it right that someone earns £44 a week more than everyone else for doing nothing, because that’s what happens in my office.

My point is why does it bother other staff so much?
Why don’t you do it?

I’m not interested in doing it , doesn’t make it right though does it .

[Mr Rush]

You do know the union don’t run the company on a day to day basis don’t you .

Same could be said for management. Alas, if it were like the old days and there was an actual career path and you had to demonstrate competency to move up the pay grades I don't think the service would be in this mess.

I don't begrudge people becoming managers and I've seen decent people put themselves forward with an intent to change the workplace environment for the better, but just know that you will have no agency to put your intentions into practice. Whatever extra money you get is really hazard pay for the flak you will take from frontline staff on behalf of the demented upstairs.

Speaking of, they really need to send senior management "Down to the Countryside" as Mao commanded. From what I've heard through the chain of command, they really have no understanding of delivery.

[Smoothbackground]

Speaking of, they really need to send senior management "Down to the Countryside" as Mao commanded. From what I've heard through the chain of command, they really have no understanding of delivery.

I can see the sense in this. It should be a prerequisite of employment as an RM manager that you have first worked as a postie for at least two years.

[chickenwittle]

Speaking of, they really need to send senior management "Down to the Countryside" as Mao commanded. From what I've heard through the chain of command, they really have no understanding of delivery.

I can see the sense in this. It should be a prerequisite of employment as an RM manager that you have first worked as a postie for at least two years.

The majority of managers I’ve had over 30 years have all experienced delivery, the problem is they forget about that as soon as they turn manager and follow instructions from above regarding savings and bonuses and lose empathy with their ex colleagues.