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Sunday Pay Rates

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Route1
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Re: Sunday Pay Rates

Post by Route1 »

Blaine wrote: ↑
28 Jul 2021, 17:25
Does anyone know the Sunday pay rates for contractual, overtime and S/A? Potentially going from overtime to contractual and told it's higher.
£14.05 per hour for Sunday. Thats was I got on the couple of shifts i've done on overtime. I'm guessing contractual will be the same. S/A will be higher.
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Re: Sunday Pay Rates

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POSTMAN wrote: ↑
29 Jul 2021, 22:23
Racingpostie wrote: ↑
29 Jul 2021, 18:20
Whilst we are on the topic of pay, can anyone help me out with the Supplements on Page 3 of the Pay rate guide. Do people get driving allowances, collection allowances and processing/walk bundling or is it all rolled into the Delivery functional supplement?

images/pdf/2/2_f74178903b43ae5671bf3bda ... 202021.pdf

Rates accurate if multiplying by 1.01 as of now.
The 3 you mentioned...
driving allowances : not really anymore unless it's a large high top van
collection allowances : collection colleagues
processing/walk bundling : MC's and walk bundling centres.

The delivery supplement, is for delivery staff only. Monney is made up of old D2D monies.

The clues are in their name...
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Racingpostie
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Re: Sunday Pay Rates

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weary_posty wrote: ↑
29 Jul 2021, 21:59
We do in our office. In the end they were so desperate for Sunday staff they printed off a sheet to show how much you could earn by committing to Sundays and briefed us all on it one morning
Lucky lot if anyone is new and contracted to it in your office then.
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Re: Sunday Pay Rates

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Our office was briefed and told that if we had already worked our day off and therefore 6 days that we couldn't work on parcels on the Sunday due to Employment Law forbidding it. Can anyone verify this as it was a Manager doing the brief and am always sceptical when I hear them saying anything.
Thanks.
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Re: Sunday Pay Rates

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RICARD020191962 wrote: ↑
01 Aug 2021, 13:07
Our office was briefed and told that if we had already worked our day off and therefore 6 days that we couldn't work on parcels on the Sunday due to Employment Law forbidding it. Can anyone verify this as it was a Manager doing the brief and am always sceptical when I hear them saying anything.
Thanks.
Your manager is partly correct, if you work 7 days you have to have 48 hours off the following week .
Grumpyoldmailman
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Re: Sunday Pay Rates

Post by Grumpyoldmailman »

P13 wrote: ↑
01 Aug 2021, 13:28
Your manager is partly correct, if you work 7 days you have to have 48 hours off the following week .
Unless they get desperate………
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Re: Sunday Pay Rates

Post by Runnerdan »

RICARD020191962 wrote: ↑
01 Aug 2021, 13:07
Our office was briefed and told that if we had already worked our day off and therefore 6 days that we couldn't work on parcels on the Sunday due to Employment Law forbidding it. Can anyone verify this as it was a Manager doing the brief and am always sceptical when I hear them saying anything.
Thanks.
This is interesting, I worked 6 days this week just gone and got a text this morning asking if I’d go in to help with delivering tracked. I said no.. but still they obviously aren’t bothered when they are desperate.
weary_posty
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Re: Sunday Pay Rates

Post by weary_posty »

It never fails to amaze me with this company that there is so much confusion for something so simple

Sunday (contracted)
Sunday Overtime
Sunday SA

Each individual payment is there in black and white on the pay grade sheet so there isn’t really an argument to not be paid it. If you are working Sunday as your contracted hours and not receiving higher rate I’d definitely ask your local or area rep to get involved.

I can’t figure out if this is a budgeting issue or poorly trained managers/reps
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Re: Sunday Pay Rates

Post by TopperGas »

P13 wrote: ↑
01 Aug 2021, 13:28
RICARD020191962 wrote: ↑
01 Aug 2021, 13:07
Our office was briefed and told that if we had already worked our day off and therefore 6 days that we couldn't work on parcels on the Sunday due to Employment Law forbidding it. Can anyone verify this as it was a Manager doing the brief and am always sceptical when I hear them saying anything.
Thanks.
Your manager is partly correct, if you work 7 days you have to have 48 hours off the following week .
Unless you complete the opt out form, I assume you can them work until you drop!
P13
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Re: Sunday Pay Rates

Post by P13 »

TopperGas wrote: ↑
02 Aug 2021, 19:59
P13 wrote: ↑
01 Aug 2021, 13:28
RICARD020191962 wrote: ↑
01 Aug 2021, 13:07
Our office was briefed and told that if we had already worked our day off and therefore 6 days that we couldn't work on parcels on the Sunday due to Employment Law forbidding it. Can anyone verify this as it was a Manager doing the brief and am always sceptical when I hear them saying anything.
Thanks.
Your manager is partly correct, if you work 7 days you have to have 48 hours off the following week .
Unless you complete the opt out form, I assume you can them work until you drop!
I don't think there is an opt out for that situation, the opt out allows you to work 70 hours a week instead of 48 hours
Blaine
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Re: Sunday Pay Rates

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I don't think there is anything legally stopping you working 7 days a week continuously, it only states you cannot legally be forced to so if you request a 48 hour break in a fortnight, it must by law be honoured. Since we are not contracted to work more than 5 days a week anyway we can just say no. There's a few of us at ours that work 7 days a week several weeks in a row, myself included, no manager says anything.

Is anyone here doing Sundays on contract that gets the highest rate and can post the lines from their Payslip to show what it looks like? Is the extra rate an allowance or is Sunday a separate line? I don't want to get fobbed off with just basic overtime rate if I'm not doing it as overtime anymore.
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Re: Sunday Pay Rates

Post by POSTMAN »

Racingpostie wrote: ↑
30 Jul 2021, 20:22
POSTMAN wrote: ↑
29 Jul 2021, 22:23
Racingpostie wrote: ↑
29 Jul 2021, 18:20
Whilst we are on the topic of pay, can anyone help me out with the Supplements on Page 3 of the Pay rate guide. Do people get driving allowances, collection allowances and processing/walk bundling or is it all rolled into the Delivery functional supplement?

images/pdf/2/2_f74178903b43ae5671bf3bda ... 202021.pdf

Rates accurate if multiplying by 1.01 as of now.
The 3 you mentioned...
driving allowances : not really anymore unless it's a large high top van
collection allowances : collection colleagues
processing/walk bundling : MC's and walk bundling centres.

The delivery supplement, is for delivery staff only. Monney is made up of old D2D monies.

The clues are in their name...
No need for the sarcasm, nothing is every straightforward here I have learnt in my short time here.
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Re: Sunday Pay Rates

Post by Route1 »

Blaine wrote: ↑
03 Aug 2021, 08:33
I don't think there is anything legally stopping you working 7 days a week continuously, it only states you cannot legally be forced to so if you request a 48 hour break in a fortnight, it must by law be honoured. Since we are not contracted to work more than 5 days a week anyway we can just say no. There's a few of us at ours that work 7 days a week several weeks in a row, myself included, no manager says anything.

Is anyone here doing Sundays on contract that gets the highest rate and can post the lines from their Payslip to show what it looks like? Is the extra rate an allowance or is Sunday a separate line? I don't want to get fobbed off with just basic overtime rate if I'm not doing it as overtime anymore.
I'll ask the Sunday guy with the contract about the payslip when I remember.

Regarding doing 7 days straight - There is something that states you cant do it. Union guy told us but I cant rem if its a union / rm agreement or a law thing. I think he said that u cant do a week without atleast one 24hr break between shifts. There are atleast 10 people I know who have broke this agreement / law. No-one bothered cause they struggle to find bodies for sundays
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Re: Sunday Pay Rates

Post by denhamhoop »

It is law that if employees work 7 consecutive days they then have to take a 48 hour break in the following week but as with many health and safety laws within Royal Mail is only ever enforced when it suits the company
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Re: Sunday Pay Rates

Post by Tamsk »

It's not a requirement, it's an entitlement; it works the same way as daily breaks. If you work through your break, then more fool you, but no law's been broken; but RM aren't allowed to make you do so. Similarly, if you choose to work 7 days a week, that's legal, but RM requiring you to isn't.

Relevant legislation for reference (Working Time Regulations 1998, as amended):
11.—(1) Subject to paragraph (2), a worker is entitled to an uninterrupted rest period of not less than 24 hours in each seven-day period during which he works for his employer.

(2) If his employer so determines, a worker shall be entitled to either—

(a)two uninterrupted rest periods each of not less than 24 hours in each 14-day period during which he works for his employer; or

(b)one uninterrupted rest period of not less than 48 hours in each such 14-day period,

in place of the entitlement provided for in paragraph (1).