LAT product

[Celgar]

As far as I understand the LAT is for lazy or disorganised people who don't prepare beforehand and order gifts etc in good time ahead of when they need it. I don't see it making a significant amount more revenue for RM. The money spent implementing LAT would be better spent increasing capacity by reworking and increasing the numbers of walks in DO etc.

[clashcityrocker]

As far as I understand the LAT is for lazy or disorganised people who don't prepare beforehand and order gifts etc in good time ahead of when they need it.

You don't understand very much then.

[aiden01]

As far as I understand the LAT is for lazy or disorganised people who don't prepare beforehand and order gifts etc in good time ahead of when they need it. I don't see it making a significant amount more revenue for RM. The money spent implementing LAT would be better spent increasing capacity by reworking and increasing the numbers of walks in DO etc.

So if you see a gift that was'nt on special offer say 10 days ago but is now half price you are lazy disorganised for ordering it

[Martin Walsh]

Ordering off the internet and wanting same day or next day delivery is the biggest growth area in the whole Postal Industry not just Royal Mail.

Whether it is laziness , impatience or simply that the internet allows you to shop without hassle from a range of shopping outlets from the confidence of your old home or office.

Royal Mail have just entered this market and already gone from trialing Bloom and Wilde to having River Island come on board. It is anticipated that further customers will be coming on line from October.

The pressure the union and members will come under is if as expected LAT increases than Royal Mail will want more of this work to go out with the normal deliveies as this is where they get more profit from. At present around 20% of the LAT traffic go out on stand alone duties or part duties which only deliver LAT which obviously costs more.

Royal Mail would in the future want to introduce later starts so they could ensure as much of that 20% could go out with normal deliveries where they make more revenue from. This is just another challenge we face along with Delivery Method trails , PDA actuals , AHDC , Traffic recording , Final mile Optimisation and resource scheduler all linked to a project called Project Enterprise which will allow them total visibility of hours worked indoor and outdoor against traffic and what walks could the unit could be resourced to and the resource scheduler details the duty content. This principle will also apply to Mail centres and RDCs.

This is part of a similar set of software as London Underground have.

[Wild Rover]

Most interesting, Dingo - thanks for your insight.

Basically, if it takes off after trial period (which looks fairly likely), then it's entirely possibly competitors will soon realise RM have upped their game, too.

[SpacePhoenix]

The pressure the union and members will come under is if as expected LAT increases than Royal Mail will want more of this work to go out with the normal deliveies as this is where they get more profit from. At present around 20% of the LAT traffic go out on stand alone duties or part duties which only deliver LAT which obviously costs more.

Royal Mail would in the future want to introduce later starts so they could ensure as much of that 20% could go out with normal deliveries where they make more revenue from.

There's also going to be pressure from the knock-on affect of Network 18, where me are only just clearing now because it's the quiet time of the year, once it picks up again I reckon we'll be failing every day and some of the fails are probably going to be big. Also with the work coming in later you're going to get a much lower % of mail sequenced on wave 2, depending on when the batch that contains your walk is done. tbqf i can't see any MC sequencing wave 2 within a year, i think it'll just be walk sorted or maybe just manual, as for some batches, some nights we must be sending way over 50% manual

This is just another challenge we face along with Delivery Method trails , PDA actuals , AHDC , Traffic recording , Final mile Optimisation and resource scheduler all linked to a project called Project Enterprise which will allow them total visibility of hours worked indoor and outdoor against traffic and what walks could the unit could be resourced to and the resource scheduler details the duty content. This principle will also apply to Mail centres and RDCs.

This is part of a similar set of software as London Underground have.

Hopefully "Project Enterprise" will make traffic forecasts more accurate, atm they're a joke, we could pick a random number and it'd probably be more accurate

[Smir]

the guy who covers our LAT24 guy quit, got annoyed with having to do LAT parcels, then come back and go out deliverying letters that didn't get done from llike 5pm-8pm.. poor sods!

[Tristral]

Yeah.
As someone said earlier managers are using the LAT staff as dogbodies to clear up the missed bits like leftover lapsing or missed tracked. Great way to piss off staff when your sorting the mess others are leaving.

I haven't had the misfortune of being sent out to do another walk yet as the first time they do I'll be going back to a normal shift.
No one would seriously do 2 duties In a row for a normal day.

[anthonyok]

Thought we had a extra box on the pda to empty turned out when we come back we got to pick a reason from a drop down menu to say why we are finishing at that time .

[Wild Rover]

Rumours at MC suggest the product will stop after trial period (October). Any truth in this rumour?

[SpacePhoenix]

Rumours at MC suggest the product will stop after trial period (October). Any truth in this rumour?

Doubtful, if Amazon or another really big company were to ever use it, then all DOs would have to put 1 or more proper duties in to cover it (plus however many reserves would be needed). Don't know if LAT would be enough to get Amazon to move all their postings from Yodel over to RM

[A2B]

Rumours at MC suggest the product will stop after trial period (October). Any truth in this rumour?

Doubtful, if Amazon or another really big company were to ever use it, then all DOs would have to put 1 or more proper duties in to cover it (plus however many reserves would be needed). Don't know if LAT would be enough to get Amazon to move all their postings from Yodel over to RM

Amazons aim is to increase their own delivery network and compete for contracts currently delivered by RM. We still get a few Amazon parcels to deliver but a small percentage of what we used to deliver

[clashcityrocker]

Rumours at MC suggest the product will stop after trial period (October). Any truth in this rumour?

What you are suggesting is RM have ploughed huge resources ( my colleague got 4 hours overtime to deliver 3 packets last week) into something only to find it isn't viable and they have to drop it. We must surely be working for different companies. The RM I know and love would never be that incompetent.

[Ozzvaldo]

Rumours at MC suggest the product will stop after trial period (October). Any truth in this rumour?

Doubtful, if Amazon or another really big company were to ever use it, then all DOs would have to put 1 or more proper duties in to cover it (plus however many reserves would be needed). Don't know if LAT would be enough to get Amazon to move all their postings from Yodel over to RM

Amazons aim is to increase their own delivery network and compete for contracts currently delivered by RM. We still get a few Amazon parcels to deliver but a small percentage of what we used to deliver

We still get huge amounts of Amazon stuff in my office, probably 15-20% of our workload. Several Yorks full every day. Amazon attempt to use their own drivers for a short while a couple of years ago but we soon got it all back because we're in a fairly isolated part of the country. It will be interesting to see if they expand their delivery network enough to take the work off us again.

[Martin Walsh]

No truth in the rumour whatsoever

The Depots and Hubs will be announced shortly and the following contracts are now using the LAT product

Bloom and Wild
Sainsbury’s
River Island

And from the 3rd September the following will come on line

Public Desire
Pro Cook
Selective Marketing
Marks and Spencer’s

Royal Mail and the CWU will shortly announce the ramp up from October when more will come on line .