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mjd24
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Post by mjd24 »

What are my options if i want to stop working for a few weeks and self isolate at home, but i dont have any symptoms and nor does anyone i live with?

I know this had sort of been answered on here, but is there anyone who is currently doing this or wants to?

Is it just a case of taking unpaid leave? Or are management flexible about using annual leave?

I want to speak to my DOM about this today or ASAP but im a bit worried that he will say my only option is unpaid leave.
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Post by POSTMAN »

If you're that worried, sick with stress?

As you know other options are only annual holiday or special Leave which will be unpaid.
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mjd24
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POSTMAN wrote:If you're that worried, sick with stress?

As you know other options are only annual holiday or special Leave which will be unpaid.
Could it be that simple, just say im stressed?
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Post by DMarvesley »

mjd24 wrote:What are my options if i want to stop working for a few weeks and self isolate at home, but i dont have any symptoms and nor does anyone i live with?

I know this had sort of been answered on here, but is there anyone who is currently doing this or wants to?

Is it just a case of taking unpaid leave? Or are management flexible about using annual leave?

I want to speak to my DOM about this today or ASAP but im a bit worried that he will say my only option is unpaid leave.
Only option I've been given is use up next years holiday allocation or go unpaid. At moment I am using option one. I, m diabetic, wife is diabetic, severe asthmatic and disabled. Very little advice for people in this situation. Spoke to my DOM today and he told me to get a letter from my GP, just called surgery and told they not doing them. NHS111 only issuing self isolation notes for people with symptoms. Bit of a grey area at moment, needs clarification.
mjd24
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Seems crazy in a way that we’re essentially being forced to massively increase out exposure to this deadly virus and if we refuse to, we dont get paid. Just seems so wrong to me.
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Post by LouBarlow »

mjd24 wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:If you're that worried, sick with stress?

As you know other options are only annual holiday or special Leave which will be unpaid.
Could it be that simple, just say im stressed?
That would only get you a week off. Then you would need to risk the GP for a note.
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Post by dembz90 »

DMarvesley wrote:
mjd24 wrote:What are my options if i want to stop working for a few weeks and self isolate at home, but i dont have any symptoms and nor does anyone i live with?

I know this had sort of been answered on here, but is there anyone who is currently doing this or wants to?

Is it just a case of taking unpaid leave? Or are management flexible about using annual leave?

I want to speak to my DOM about this today or ASAP but im a bit worried that he will say my only option is unpaid leave.
Only option I've been given is use up next years holiday allocation or go unpaid. At moment I am using option one. I, m diabetic, wife is diabetic, severe asthmatic and disabled. Very little advice for people in this situation. Spoke to my DOM today and he told me to get a letter from my GP, just called surgery and told they not doing them. NHS111 only issuing self isolation notes for people with symptoms. Bit of a grey area at moment, needs clarification.
I’m also diabetic and self isolating , even though I’m not showing any symptoms. I believe the union asked the question to Royal Mail about what their approach to employees at a higher risk will be. Hopefully we will get a clear answer today. If it has to be Stat sick pay for 12 weeks then so be it.
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Post by Norsegold »

dembz90 wrote:
DMarvesley wrote:
mjd24 wrote:What are my options if i want to stop working for a few weeks and self isolate at home, but i dont have any symptoms and nor does anyone i live with?

I know this had sort of been answered on here, but is there anyone who is currently doing this or wants to?

Is it just a case of taking unpaid leave? Or are management flexible about using annual leave?

I want to speak to my DOM about this today or ASAP but im a bit worried that he will say my only option is unpaid leave.
Only option I've been given is use up next years holiday allocation or go unpaid. At moment I am using option one. I, m diabetic, wife is diabetic, severe asthmatic and disabled. Very little advice for people in this situation. Spoke to my DOM today and he told me to get a letter from my GP, just called surgery and told they not doing them. NHS111 only issuing self isolation notes for people with symptoms. Bit of a grey area at moment, needs clarification.
I’m also diabetic and self isolating , even though I’m not showing any symptoms. I believe the union asked the question to Royal Mail about what their approach to employees at a higher risk will be. Hopefully we will get a clear answer today. If it has to be Stat sick pay for 12 weeks then so be it.

Key workers with underlying health conditions need support and help!

Right from the start we were told certain health conditions resulted in a greater chance of getting the severe form of Covid 19.
The HSE's guidance was as follows -

"This was the advise on the HSE website -

Coronavirus (COVID-19) is a new virus. We are still learning how it works.
There are some groups of people who may be more at risk of serious illness if they catch coronavirus. But we do not think these groups have a higher risk of catching coronavirus. This is similar to other infections such as flu.
It is likely you are more at risk of serious illness if you catch coronavirus and you are one of the following:

60 years of age and over.
Have a long-term medical condition – for example, heart disease, lung disease, diabetes, cancer or high blood pressure."

Results from China and Italy have proven this advice to be true and that the risk of getting the severe form of the disease and it having it prove fatal increases the more underlying health conditions you have. So how is it that key workers with conditions such as those listed above are just being told to carry on? How is that saving lives? How is that benefiting the NHS and our brave Doctors? How is this in line with the Governments instructions last night? Surely people with these conditions need protecting ?

So how is RM caring for its staff with valid concerns about underlying health conditions - take your holiday or go without pay?
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Post by PostmanBitesDog »

mjd24 wrote:What are my options if i want to stop working for a few weeks and self isolate at home, but i dont have any symptoms and nor does anyone i live with?
Here's more stress for you: Self-isolation doesn't always work. Look what happened to this poor fellow who self-quarantined:
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Post by postiewhite »

What if you come down with a slight cough?
By the way NHS online includes a slight cough as a possible symptom.
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Post by wacko74 »

mjd24 wrote:Seems crazy in a way that we’re essentially being forced to massively increase out exposure to this deadly virus and if we refuse to, we dont get paid. Just seems so wrong to me.

Spot on.

How can it possibly be fair that other workers in non ''key'' industries are getting at least 80% of their pay whilst getting to stay at home on furlough, yet if we want to self isolate for a number of perfectly valid reasons, risk to ourselves if in a vulnerable group, risk to our families if any of them are classed as vulnerable... we have to take annual leave or unpaid leave.
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mjd24 wrote:What are my options if i want to stop working for a few weeks and self isolate at home, but i dont have any symptoms and nor does anyone i live with?

I know this had sort of been answered on here, but is there anyone who is currently doing this or wants to?

Is it just a case of taking unpaid leave? Or are management flexible about using annual leave?

I want to speak to my DOM about this today or ASAP but im a bit worried that he will say my only option is unpaid leave.
So you just don't fancy working? If your that worried just ask to go off unpaid, why would he offer anything else when theres nothing wrong with you or members of your family? If we all did this it would be great wouldn't it? I don't really enjoy work at the best of times never mind at the moment but don't think I should be able to decide to stay off because I fancy it and either be paid or take annual leave
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citypostie wrote:
mjd24 wrote:What are my options if i want to stop working for a few weeks and self isolate at home, but i dont have any symptoms and nor does anyone i live with?

I know this had sort of been answered on here, but is there anyone who is currently doing this or wants to?

Is it just a case of taking unpaid leave? Or are management flexible about using annual leave?

I want to speak to my DOM about this today or ASAP but im a bit worried that he will say my only option is unpaid leave.
So you just don't fancy working? If your that worried just ask to go off unpaid, why would he offer anything else when theres nothing wrong with you or members of your family? If we all did this it would be great wouldn't it? I don't really enjoy work at the best of times never mind at the moment but don't think I should be able to decide to stay off because I fancy it and either be paid or take annual leave
As a sufferer of extreme anxiety and depression since my teenage years, i can tell you that the last thing i “want” is to stop working and self isolate at home for weeks on end.

This job, overall, has massively helped my mental health issues, mainly through the huge amount of exercise amongst other things.

But we’re in an extremely grave situation, and if youve listened or watched some of the radio/news items i have over the last few days especially, you must be scared to death about this virus and the possibility of you or your loved ones catching it.

Clearly RM are putting effort into making our work environments as safe as possible (to an extent) but you cant argue that by going to work, in an office of over 120 people, i am greatly increasing my chances of catching the virus.

So, i really dont think its out of order for me to be looking at all my options.

Quite frankly, im amazed at the numbers of people still turning up for work each day, still laughing and joking and getting close to one another. It really seems that many colleagues dont see this as something that will effect them, but it really could.
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citypostie wrote:
mjd24 wrote:What are my options if i want to stop working for a few weeks and self isolate at home, but i dont have any symptoms and nor does anyone i live with?

I know this had sort of been answered on here, but is there anyone who is currently doing this or wants to?

Is it just a case of taking unpaid leave? Or are management flexible about using annual leave?

I want to speak to my DOM about this today or ASAP but im a bit worried that he will say my only option is unpaid leave.
So you just don't fancy working? If your that worried just ask to go off unpaid, why would he offer anything else when theres nothing wrong with you or members of your family? If we all did this it would be great wouldn't it? I don't really enjoy work at the best of times never mind at the moment but don't think I should be able to decide to stay off because I fancy it and either be paid or take annual leave
I agree everyone is rightly concerned about this virus,but imagine if everyone had your attitude as just gave up work because they're worried,there'd be no nurses,no doctors,binmen or anything it's the nature of the job,work as safe as you can don't work over your hours and stay safe.
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DB1100 wrote:
citypostie wrote:
mjd24 wrote:What are my options if i want to stop working for a few weeks and self isolate at home, but i dont have any symptoms and nor does anyone i live with?

I know this had sort of been answered on here, but is there anyone who is currently doing this or wants to?

Is it just a case of taking unpaid leave? Or are management flexible about using annual leave?

I want to speak to my DOM about this today or ASAP but im a bit worried that he will say my only option is unpaid leave.
So you just don't fancy working? If your that worried just ask to go off unpaid, why would he offer anything else when theres nothing wrong with you or members of your family? If we all did this it would be great wouldn't it? I don't really enjoy work at the best of times never mind at the moment but don't think I should be able to decide to stay off because I fancy it and either be paid or take annual leave
I agree everyone is rightly concerned about this virus,but imagine if everyone had your attitude as just gave up work because they're worried,there'd be no nurses,no doctors,binmen or anything it's the nature of the job,work as safe as you can don't work over your hours and stay safe.
Bin men are far better protected than us, and I doubt they have to spend a few hours indoors in close proximity sorting things.

While it doesn’t make it right, doctors and nurses know when they signed up to the job there’s some risk involved, dealing every day with people with illnesses etc. Same goes for police, firemen, army and so on.

I’ve never had a single sick day off. Not a single hour. I’m not workshy but I never signed up to play the role of an invincible postman pat.
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