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So today i got a phone call from my line manager telling me that because i am self isolating for 14 days. And because i was sick last year for 6 months that from next week i can bring froward 5 days leave. But as of Monday i wont be getting ANY pay. Any advice on this?
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gand wrote:So today i got a phone call from my line manager telling me that because i am self isolating for 14 days. And because i was sick last year for 6 months that from next week i can bring froward 5 days leave. But as of Monday i wont be getting ANY pay. Any advice on this?
Normal sick pay procedures still apply, which means you can have half pay IF you have used up all of your full pay.

b) Self-isolation, testing and reporting
What is the latest government advice re self-isolation for employees?

The situation is constantly changing and you should check Public Health England guidance for the latest advice
on this area.

Our understanding of the current position is that employees could be isolating for between 7 and 14 days and
this could be extended by around a week if they develop symptoms during self-isolation.

All absences should be treated as sickness absence. Managers should choose “Coronavirus with Symptoms” if
the employee has symptoms and “Coronavirus Self Isolation” if they do not have symptoms. Please update the
absence if the reason for absence changes.

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Thanks postman. And what about the 80% of wages paid the government was talking about on news?
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gand wrote:Thanks postman. And what about the 80% of wages paid the government was talking about on news?
Not 100% but it possibly doesn't concern us as there are no job losses, If I'm honest though I have not had the time to read more on it yet.
No doubt RM would make a statement if it concerns us.

Maybe someone else on here knows for sure.
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It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Thanks for the help. Ill be going to the press on Monday morning about it.
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gand wrote:So today i got a phone call from my line manager telling me that because i am self isolating for 14 days. And because i was sick last year for 6 months that from next week i can bring froward 5 days leave. But as of Monday i wont be getting ANY pay. Any advice on this?
Tell management you have all the symptoms and ask them what they want you to do. Get them to tell you to stay off, that should be full pay shouldn’t it?
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POSTMAN wrote:
gand wrote:Thanks postman. And what about the 80% of wages paid the government was talking about on news?
Not 100% but it possibly doesn't concern us as there are no job losses, If I'm honest though I have not had the time to read more on it yet.
No doubt RM would make a statement if it concerns us.

Maybe someone else on here knows for sure.
I can imagine there's some high level conversations going on at the moment about whether it makes sense to furlough the vulnerable staff for 3 months and let the government pick up 80% of their wages with the business picking up the other 20%.

From our point of view it makes sense that they're safer at home and being paid, from the business point of view it gets rid of a headache but would the government go for it? They're throwing money around like confetti so why not?
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So how exactly does the 6 months pay in 4 years work ? For example , if you were off for a total of 6 months in four years , when or how does full play start to accrue again ?
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Pidleypoo wrote:So how exactly does the 6 months pay in 4 years work ? For example , if you were off for a total of 6 months in four years , when or how does full play start to accrue again ?

Great post any info on this comment
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Smith1212 wrote:
Pidleypoo wrote:So how exactly does the 6 months pay in 4 years work ? For example , if you were off for a total of 6 months in four years , when or how does full play start to accrue again ?

Great post any info on this comment


It's a rolling 4 year period.
If you use it in one go you have 3 and a half years to go before you'll get full sick pay again.
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Woody Guthrie wrote:
Smith1212 wrote:
Pidleypoo wrote:So how exactly does the 6 months pay in 4 years work ? For example , if you were off for a total of 6 months in four years , when or how does full play start to accrue again ?

Great post any info on this comment


It's a rolling 4 year period.
If you use it in one go you have 3 and a half years to go before you'll get full sick pay again.
So I assume that they go back as far as they can in a four year period and that’s the start point for the total 6 months in 4 years
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Pidleypoo wrote:
Woody Guthrie wrote:
Smith1212 wrote:
Pidleypoo wrote:So how exactly does the 6 months pay in 4 years work ? For example , if you were off for a total of 6 months in four years , when or how does full play start to accrue again ?

Great post any info on this comment


It's a rolling 4 year period.
If you use it in one go you have 3 and a half years to go before you'll get full sick pay again.
So I assume that they go back as far as they can in a four year period and that’s the start point for the total 6 months in 4 years
Exactly.
Every day you've had off in the last 4 years is deducted from the 6, months.
That's what catches a lot of people out, they go on to long term sick and wonder why their full pay runs out after 5 months but forget the four weeks they've had in the previous 4 years.
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Woody Guthrie wrote:
Pidleypoo wrote:
Woody Guthrie wrote:
Smith1212 wrote:
Pidleypoo wrote:So how exactly does the 6 months pay in 4 years work ? For example , if you were off for a total of 6 months in four years , when or how does full play start to accrue again ?

Great post any info on this comment


It's a rolling 4 year period.
If you use it in one go you have 3 and a half years to go before you'll get full sick pay again.
So I assume that they go back as far as they can in a four year period and that’s the start point for the total 6 months in 4 years
Exactly.
Every day you've had off in the last 4 years is deducted from the 6, months.
That's what catches a lot of people out, they go on to long term sick and wonder why their full pay runs out after 5 months but forget the four weeks they've had in the previous 4 years.
Thanks for that .