CWU strike ballot to win 'Four Pillars'

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 28 Sep 2017, 14:05

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On 6 September, the Communication Workers Union (CWU) served notice to Royal Mail for a strike ballot.

After months of unsatisfactory talks between the business and CWU representatives, the union leadership has now decided to act over the company's attacks on pensions, terms and conditions of employment and working practices.

As part of the 'Four Pillars' of security the union is seeking from the business, the CWU has put forward an alternative 'Wage in retirement' proposal to address Royal Mail's plan to replace the current defined-benefit pension scheme with a far less generous one.

The other demands are a reduction to the working week, extensions to the legal protections promised after privatisation and a commitment to grow the business.

The industrial action is to win the 'Four Pillars' demands and the Socialist Party is calling for a Yes vote. The ballot ends on 3 October.

UrbanPirate · Post by **UrbanPirate** » 28 Sep 2017, 21:21

"The industrial action is to win the 'Four Pillars' demands"

Just to clarify. Does this mean the union will not compromise on the demands? All or the strike continues kinda thing? Or am I reading this wrong? Happy to be corrected.

Post by **aiden01** » 28 Sep 2017, 21:31

UrbanPirate wrote:"The industrial action is to win the 'Four Pillars' demands"

Just to clarify. Does this mean the union will not compromise on the demands? All or the strike continues kinda thing? Or am I reading this wrong? Happy to be corrected.

honestly don't think too many on here care how you read it.

UrbanPirate · Post by **UrbanPirate** » 28 Sep 2017, 21:42

aiden01 wrote:
UrbanPirate wrote:"The industrial action is to win the 'Four Pillars' demands"

Just to clarify. Does this mean the union will not compromise on the demands? All or the strike continues kinda thing? Or am I reading this wrong? Happy to be corrected.
honestly don't think too many on here care how you read it.

grow up

Post by **aiden01** » 28 Sep 2017, 21:44

UrbanPirate wrote:
aiden01 wrote:
UrbanPirate wrote:"The industrial action is to win the 'Four Pillars' demands"

Just to clarify. Does this mean the union will not compromise on the demands? All or the strike continues kinda thing? Or am I reading this wrong? Happy to be corrected.
honestly don't think too many on here care how you read it.
grow up

Ahh truth hurts

UrbanPirate · Post by **UrbanPirate** » 28 Sep 2017, 21:45

aiden01 wrote:
UrbanPirate wrote:
aiden01 wrote:
UrbanPirate wrote:"The industrial action is to win the 'Four Pillars' demands"

Just to clarify. Does this mean the union will not compromise on the demands? All or the strike continues kinda thing? Or am I reading this wrong? Happy to be corrected.
honestly don't think too many on here care how you read it.
grow up
Ahh truth hurts :Very Happy

What truth. You haven't said anything.

Post by **aiden01** » 28 Sep 2017, 21:51

UrbanPirate wrote:
aiden01 wrote:
UrbanPirate wrote:
aiden01 wrote:
UrbanPirate wrote:"The industrial action is to win the 'Four Pillars' demands"

Just to clarify. Does this mean the union will not compromise on the demands? All or the strike continues kinda thing? Or am I reading this wrong? Happy to be corrected.
honestly don't think too many on here care how you read it.
grow up
Ahh truth hurts
What truth. You haven't said anything.

just told you not too many on here care what your opinion is now

and can't wait till Tues 3oct to see how many of your fellow pirates voted no

UrbanPirate · Post by **UrbanPirate** » 28 Sep 2017, 21:53

aiden01 wrote:
UrbanPirate wrote:
aiden01 wrote:
UrbanPirate wrote:
aiden01 wrote:
UrbanPirate wrote:"The industrial action is to win the 'Four Pillars' demands"

Just to clarify. Does this mean the union will not compromise on the demands? All or the strike continues kinda thing? Or am I reading this wrong? Happy to be corrected.
honestly don't think too many on here care how you read it.
grow up
Ahh truth hurts :Very Happy
What truth. You haven't said anything.
just told you not too many on here care what your opinion is now :wave :wave :wave :wave and can't wait till Tues 3oct to see how many of your fellow pirates voted no :left:

Fella this is a different thread. But honestly it doesn't surprise me that you understood nothing that I have posted. Im fully aware there will be a big yes vote. But people seem to think this is the victory. It is not. It is the start. And I dont think it will be won. I dont think it should be fought.

UrbanPirate · Post by **UrbanPirate** » 28 Sep 2017, 21:56

Anyway, If someone could answer me the question. Or do we not know the answer?

Post by **aiden01** » 28 Sep 2017, 22:01

UrbanPirate wrote:Anyway, If someone could answer me the question. Or do we not know the answer?

Compromise on what the union have quite clearly stated what the 4 pillars are so hopefully that answers your question. any back down from these will in my opinion have serious consequences for union.

Post by **aiden01** » 28 Sep 2017, 22:09

UrbanPirate wrote:I was hoping TrueBlueTerrier could clarify. No offence mate but you have proven yourself abit of a nob.

Defoi not your mate now resorting to silly name calling oh dear oh dear can't be bothered reporting your post I will let moderators make up there mind about your post.

UrbanPirate · Post by **UrbanPirate** » 28 Sep 2017, 22:19

Again. Grow up. MATE. I come here for a simply answer to a simple question and all I get is you kicking off. Go do it on the other thread and leave this one for what it is intended for.

Post by **aiden01** » 28 Sep 2017, 23:17

UrbanPirate wrote:Again. Grow up. MATE. I come here for a simply answer to a simple question and all I get is you kicking off. Go do it on the other thread and leave this one for what it is intended for.

I gave you an honest answer and please no more name calling just incase you misread it there will be no compromise 4pillars and thats the end of it.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 29 Sep 2017, 07:27

UrbanPirate wrote:"The industrial action is to win the 'Four Pillars' demands"

Just to clarify. Does this mean the union will not compromise on the demands? All or the strike continues kinda thing? Or am I reading this wrong? Happy to be corrected.

Neither - its an article from an independent newspaper commenting on the ballot that's all.

UrbanPirate · Post by **UrbanPirate** » 29 Sep 2017, 08:58

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
UrbanPirate wrote:"The industrial action is to win the 'Four Pillars' demands"

Just to clarify. Does this mean the union will not compromise on the demands? All or the strike continues kinda thing? Or am I reading this wrong? Happy to be corrected.
Neither - its an article from an independent newspaper commenting on the ballot that's all.

Fair enough.