Postman in Court No1 at The Old Bailey

[Misssorts]

A Postman has appeared at The Old Bailey accused of Stealing two Books from The Royal Free Hospital in March last year. It is allaeged that he stole while on his round. The Trial is continuning at the moment.

Article from Camden New Journal.

p.s. The Accused was a Collection Driver and not a Delivery Officer.

[johnnyp]

A Postman has appeared at The Old Bailey accused of Stealing two Books from The Royal Free Hospital in March last year. It is allaeged that he stole while on his round. The Trial is continuning at the moment.

Article from Camden New Journal.

p.s. The Accused was a Collection Driver and not a Delivery Officer.

I always thought The Old Bailey was used to trial mass murderess,terrorists,bank robbers,drug barons etc.

[DGP1]

I found this - but I'm not sure about the sentence
http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.j ... #highlight

The prisoner called five witnesses, who gave him a good character.

GUILTY DEATH .(Aged 62.)

[TrueBlueTerrier]

I found this - but I'm not sure about the sentence
http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.j ... #highlight

The prisoner called five witnesses, who gave him a good character.

GUILTY DEATH .(Aged 62.)

£10 pounds and 7 Letters and they executed him . Some on here would say they were too easy on him.

[DGP1]

Here's a few more cases (and we thought stealing mail was a current thing)
http://tinyurl.com/6a7fuc

[Stormproof]

I found this - but I'm not sure about the sentence
http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.j ... #highlight

The prisoner called five witnesses, who gave him a good character.

GUILTY DEATH .(Aged 62.)

Some great but also really scarey stuff on that old bailey website, when I started doing my family tree I went on there just to check none of the ancestors were crims

[DGP1]

Holy crap!!! Going through those cases, if you're found guilty then it's a death penalty We should all be thankful we live today and not back then

Although later on all they seem to do is 'transport' for several years

[Stormproof]

Reference Number: t16810520-6
Offence: Theft > pocketpicking
Verdict: Guilty
Punishment: Death
See original
Francis Russel , a Boy of about 8 years of Age, was Indicted for picking eleven Guineas, and seven shillings in silver out of a Gentlewoman s Pocket near St. Dunstans Church , and Convicted of the same by his own Confession.

WILLIAM MILLER, Theft > pocketpicking, 22nd June 1796.


Reference Number: t17960622-75
Offence: Theft > pocketpicking
Verdict: Guilty
Punishment: Death
See original
448. WILLIAM MILLER was indicted for feloniously stealing on the 1st of June , a leather pocket book, value 2s. the property of Andrew Stoever , privily from his person .

ANDREW STOEVER sworn.

On the 1st of June, I was going from the Custom-House, to my lodgings, and when I got home, I missed my pocket-book; I went back immediately, and I heard it was stolen from me.

Q. Are you sure you had the pocket-book about you, when you came from the Custom-House? - A. Yes.

Q. Did you feel it taken from you? - A. No; it was about twelve o'clock at noon when I got home, I did not see the prisoner at all.

- BACON sworn.

I was looking out at a window, and saw the prisoner pick the gentleman's pocket, and I called a person to stop him, and when he came back, he had dropped the book; I cannot say it is the same book that he took out of the gentleman's pocket, a boy brought it up to me, and said, that was the book he had seen him drop.

Prosecutor. This is my book, there are three bills of lading in it that I got at the Custom-House.

Q. Whereabout do you carry that book? - A. In the outside pocket, it is worth 2s.

Prisoner's defence. I was going of an errand when I was taken.

For the Prisoner.

ANN MATTHEWS sworn.

I live next door to the prisoner's mother, she is a widow, he lives with her and makes baskets for me, I believe that is his only employment; he has made some for me, and several that I have recommended him to make, it is about six weeks ago that he made me the last; I never heard any thing amiss of his character, she has other children smaller than him.

GUILTY . Death . (Aged 15.)

Tried by the London Jury, before Mr. Justice BULLER.

I wonder what punishment these 2 :cfo :lfo would've got back then

[pinstripe]

Reference Number: t16810520-6
Offence: Theft > pocketpicking
Verdict: Guilty
Punishment: Death
See original
Francis Russel , a Boy of about 8 years of Age, was Indicted for picking eleven Guineas, and seven shillings in silver out of a Gentlewoman s Pocket near St. Dunstans Church , and Convicted of the same by his own Confession.

WILLIAM MILLER, Theft > pocketpicking, 22nd June 1796.


Reference Number: t17960622-75
Offence: Theft > pocketpicking
Verdict: Guilty
Punishment: Death
See original
448. WILLIAM MILLER was indicted for feloniously stealing on the 1st of June , a leather pocket book, value 2s. the property of Andrew Stoever , privily from his person .

ANDREW STOEVER sworn.

On the 1st of June, I was going from the Custom-House, to my lodgings, and when I got home, I missed my pocket-book; I went back immediately, and I heard it was stolen from me.

Q. Are you sure you had the pocket-book about you, when you came from the Custom-House? - A. Yes.

Q. Did you feel it taken from you? - A. No; it was about twelve o'clock at noon when I got home, I did not see the prisoner at all.

- BACON sworn.

I was looking out at a window, and saw the prisoner pick the gentleman's pocket, and I called a person to stop him, and when he came back, he had dropped the book; I cannot say it is the same book that he took out of the gentleman's pocket, a boy brought it up to me, and said, that was the book he had seen him drop.

Prosecutor. This is my book, there are three bills of lading in it that I got at the Custom-House.

Q. Whereabout do you carry that book? - A. In the outside pocket, it is worth 2s.

Prisoner's defence. I was going of an errand when I was taken.

For the Prisoner.

ANN MATTHEWS sworn.

I live next door to the prisoner's mother, she is a widow, he lives with her and makes baskets for me, I believe that is his only employment; he has made some for me, and several that I have recommended him to make, it is about six weeks ago that he made me the last; I never heard any thing amiss of his character, she has other children smaller than him.

GUILTY . Death . (Aged 15.)

Tried by the London Jury, before Mr. Justice BULLER.

I wonder what punishment these 2 :cfo :lfo would've got back then

Nothing as they'd be classed as 'Gentlemen'. We, on the other hand, well we'd be ******, being lower class and all!
Though there are some that would be ok, you know the sort.

[DGP1]

Nothing as they'd be classed as 'Gentlemen'. We, on the other hand, well we'd be ******, being lower class and all!
Though there are some that would be ok, you know the sort.

Although I'd agree with you on Crozier, I think that Leighton would be in trouble (due to his spiv type nature and his ability to screw everything up)

[pinstripe]

Nothing as they'd be classed as 'Gentlemen'. We, on the other hand, well we'd be ******, being lower class and all!
Though there are some that would be ok, you know the sort.

Although I'd agree with you on Crozier, I think that Leighton would be in trouble (due to his spiv type nature and his ability to screw everything up)

Nah, the old boys network would see him ok, a few hands greased, friends in govt. and media. Still, if only wearing a pink shirt was a capital crime.....

[baldrick]

A Postman has appeared at The Old Bailey accused of Stealing two Books from The Royal Free Hospital in March last year. It is allaeged that he stole while on his round. The Trial is continuning at the moment.

Article from Camden New Journal.

p.s. The Accused was a Collection Driver and not a Delivery Officer.

I always thought The Old Bailey was used to trial mass murderess,terrorists,bank robbers,drug barons etc.

The main Courts (1-4) in the old building are for the big and serious crime trials.
But there are about 20 smaller courtrooms in the newer part of the building which are used
for lesser trials for offences committed in the Greater London area. I was on a jury there about
30 years ago.
It would be unlikely that a case like this would be held in Court No 1 unless another trial there finished
early and they just put his case in to fill a gap.

[johnnyp]

A Postman has appeared at The Old Bailey accused of Stealing two Books from The Royal Free Hospital in March last year. It is allaeged that he stole while on his round. The Trial is continuning at the moment.

Article from Camden New Journal.

p.s. The Accused was a Collection Driver and not a Delivery Officer.

I always thought The Old Bailey was used to trial mass murderess,terrorists,bank robbers,drug barons etc.

The main Courts (1-4) in the old building are for the big and serious crime trials.
But there are about 20 smaller courtrooms in the newer part of the building which are used
for lesser trials for offences committed in the Greater London area. I was on a jury there about
30 years ago.
It would be unlikely that a case like this would be held in Court No 1 unless another trial there finished
early and they just put his case in to fill a gap.

Cheers baldrick you learn something new everyday friend.