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Fire/rehire

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jbo5066
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Fire/rehire

Post by jbo5066 »

On Sky news - only P&O worker to take company to industrial tribunal for sacking won, given undisclosed amount, which usually means a lot...
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Post by 49erman »

jbo5066 wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 10:14
On Sky news - only P&O worker to take company to industrial tribunal for sacking won, given undisclosed amount, which usually means a lot...
Good for him :Applause
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Get the name of the firm they hired so we can use them when it happens to us :crazy:
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jbo5066 wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 10:14
On Sky news - only P&O worker to take company to industrial tribunal for sacking won, given undisclosed amount, which usually means a lot...
Still not a bad outcome for P&O sacked a 1,000(?) but only one employee took them as far as an Industrial Tribunal?
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TopperGas wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 11:43
jbo5066 wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 10:14
On Sky news - only P&O worker to take company to industrial tribunal for sacking won, given undisclosed amount, which usually means a lot...
Still not a bad outcome for P&O sacked a 1,000(?) but only one employee took them as far as an Industrial Tribunal?
Not a bad outcome for P&O but the warning is there now for other companies thinking of doing the same. Now that this fella has won his case it’ll give other workers the confidence to do the same if they suffer this awful treatment.
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TopperGas wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 11:43
jbo5066 wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 10:14
On Sky news - only P&O worker to take company to industrial tribunal for sacking won, given undisclosed amount, which usually means a lot...
Still not a bad outcome for P&O sacked a 1,000(?) but only one employee took them as far as an Industrial Tribunal?
For now....but the floodgates will open when the rest get wind of it.
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jbo5066 wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 10:14
On Sky news - only P&O worker to take company to industrial tribunal for sacking won, given undisclosed amount, which usually means a lot...
It's interesting news, and encouraging in a way, but it only came about because P&O failed to follow the accepted legal procedures with regard to hire and fire. It does not mean another company can't go down the same route as long as they do things correctly. It also needs to be recognised that any legal action undertaken regarding unfair dismissal has to be self-financed, unless you can find someone to bear the cost on your behalf, perhaps a union seeking to establish a precedent with regard to a particular industry. I'm not sure if class action lawsuits can be undertaken in cases of unfair dismissal?
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Post by walthmstowman »

Apparently it was reported in The Times yesterday that Royal Mail are threatening compulsory redundancies.
seesred
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Lesson from history. This is the beginning of how we got to where we are now. Ronald Reagan firing 90% of America's air traffic controllers, and not re-hiring them.

https://www.npr.org/2021/08/05/10250188 ... ontrollers
Woody Guthrie
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daveyeff wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 12:35
TopperGas wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 11:43
Still not a bad outcome for P&O sacked a 1,000(?) but only one employee took them as far as an Industrial Tribunal?
For now....but the floodgates will open when the rest get wind of it.
No they won't.
People seem to misunderstand the P&O situation completely.
These employees were not sacked, they were forcebly made redundant.
The vast majority accepted the redundancy package, very few didn't, this guy was one of the few.
It was a shitty thing to do to these guys but it didn't come cheap for the company.
Only dead fish follow the current
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Well i hope the rest that didn't accept it do the same as this guy. But whats stopping our bunch of shitbags doing the same as P&O?
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daveyeff wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 17:08
But whats stopping our bunch of shitbags doing the same as P&O?
Upfront cost and potential savings.
Basically the maths does not stack up.
Only dead fish follow the current
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Post by Wolf91 »

daveyeff wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 17:08
Well i hope the rest that didn't accept it do the same as this guy. But whats stopping our bunch of shitbags doing the same as P&O?
115,000 employees with redundancy packages would be quite a lot I imagine. Wouldn’t quite line up with their narrative of poverty either.
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Post by Napmost »

Maybe missing something but could they be thinking D-day is 18th November (after 12 weeks of striking)? Fire and re-hire on their terms/no redundancy payments if strikes continue?
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Yes I’m thinking along those lines too. RM will have costed these strikes. It’s a matter of who jumps first. If nothing is resolved they can legally sack us as I understand it. Question is would they? They need a workforce. How big a workforce only they can say. As for pay and terms it will be what they offer if it gets to that point. Let’s hope it doesn’t.