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April 21 to September 21

All the LTB'S and latest discussion threads on getting extra holiday payments when going on holiday for those who work above their contracted hours.For part-timers 'and' full-timers.
woofwoof
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April 21 to September 21

Post by woofwoof »

Next payment is on the app
so let the complaints begin
ted_e_bear
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Re: April 21 to September 21

Post by ted_e_bear »

Yeah fuk all for me, that'll teach me to have 2 weeks holiday in summer and not work either days off the other 2 weeks in that month :evil/mad :evil/mad
mw7485
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Re: April 21 to September 21

Post by mw7485 »

I'm rapidly reaching the conclusion that this scheme is really an underhand way of incentivising working days off. After all, there is no rule saying how the monthly qualifying amount is reached (ie, regularity) - only an apparently arbitrary number of hours that just happens to be pretty close to a full time day's hours.

If it wasn't so devious, it'd be pretty clever.
world class male
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Re: April 21 to September 21

Post by world class male »

ted_e_bear wrote:
23 Nov 2021, 15:12
Yeah fuk all for me, that'll teach me to have 2 weeks holiday in summer and not work either days off the other 2 weeks in that month :evil/mad :evil/mad
same here, failed by less than an hour, i've already submitted a claim,
though i fail to understand how this total cock up of agreement not passed by its members be functional with already 3 months of the qualifying criteria period gone be deemed ok by tp & co,
thus apr21-july21 nobody knew what they had to do to achieve the target and that's not including the 2 years prior and the 5ish years before that!
can't wait to see the 3 amigos doing a retake of the 3 stooges tomorrow teatime when no doubt everything is still fine within the group
HTPostman
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Re: April 21 to September 21

Post by HTPostman »

My biggest concern with the agreement is the ability of management to screw you over. You could be doing 40 hours OT a week for the first 5 periods, all it takes is for the DOM to say OT ban in the 6th period then you miss out and have to put in a claim yourself.
The day is gonna come when we’re all gonna have to testify.

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worktotime
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Re: April 21 to September 21

Post by worktotime »

world class male wrote:
23 Nov 2021, 16:56
ted_e_bear wrote:
23 Nov 2021, 15:12
Yeah fuk all for me, that'll teach me to have 2 weeks holiday in summer and not work either days off the other 2 weeks in that month :evil/mad :evil/mad
same here, failed by less than an hour, i've already submitted a claim,
though i fail to understand how this total cock up of agreement not passed by its members be functional with already 3 months of the qualifying criteria period gone be deemed ok by tp & co,
thus apr21-july21 nobody knew what they had to do to achieve the target and that's not including the 2 years prior and the 5ish years before that!
can't wait to see the 3 amigos doing a retake of the 3 stooges tomorrow teatime when no doubt everything is still fine within the group
how did you claim for this 6 month period as acas base there claims on 12 weeks , and i did 71 hours o/t over the 6 month and got jack s**t again , but if we worked in processing and it was paid at sa you would be paid am i right ? :crazy:
world class male
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Re: April 21 to September 21

Post by world class male »

worktotime wrote:
23 Nov 2021, 17:52
world class male wrote:
23 Nov 2021, 16:56
ted_e_bear wrote:
23 Nov 2021, 15:12
Yeah fuk all for me, that'll teach me to have 2 weeks holiday in summer and not work either days off the other 2 weeks in that month :evil/mad :evil/mad
same here, failed by less than an hour, i've already submitted a claim,
though i fail to understand how this total cock up of agreement not passed by its members be functional with already 3 months of the qualifying criteria period gone be deemed ok by tp & co,
thus apr21-july21 nobody knew what they had to do to achieve the target and that's not including the 2 years prior and the 5ish years before that!
can't wait to see the 3 amigos doing a retake of the 3 stooges tomorrow teatime when no doubt everything is still fine within the group
how did you claim for this 6 month period as acas base there claims on 12 weeks , and i did 71 hours o/t over the 6 month and got jack s**t again , but if we worked in processing and it was paid at sa you would be paid am i right ? :crazy:
i did well over 100 and got zero, i'd already worked it out it would be tight on a month i was on leave and confirmed today so already had the acas ref number, then just head over to the .gov site, (google employment tribunals) and takes around 10 mins to submit,
i may not get anything or not much due to the time lapsed but it's worth a punt, nothing ventured nothing gained
worktotime
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Re: April 21 to September 21

Post by worktotime »

world class male wrote:
23 Nov 2021, 18:51
worktotime wrote:
23 Nov 2021, 17:52
world class male wrote:
23 Nov 2021, 16:56
ted_e_bear wrote:
23 Nov 2021, 15:12
Yeah fuk all for me, that'll teach me to have 2 weeks holiday in summer and not work either days off the other 2 weeks in that month :evil/mad :evil/mad
same here, failed by less than an hour, i've already submitted a claim,
though i fail to understand how this total cock up of agreement not passed by its members be functional with already 3 months of the qualifying criteria period gone be deemed ok by tp & co,
thus apr21-july21 nobody knew what they had to do to achieve the target and that's not including the 2 years prior and the 5ish years before that!
can't wait to see the 3 amigos doing a retake of the 3 stooges tomorrow teatime when no doubt everything is still fine within the group
how did you claim for this 6 month period as acas base there claims on 12 weeks , and i did 71 hours o/t over the 6 month and got jack s**t again , but if we worked in processing and it was paid at sa you would be paid am i right ? :crazy:
i did well over 100 and got zero, i'd already worked it out it would be tight on a month i was on leave and confirmed today so already had the acas ref number, then just head over to the .gov site, (google employment tribunals) and takes around 10 mins to submit,
i may not get anything or not much due to the time lapsed but it's worth a punt, nothing ventured nothing gained
to right :thumbup , did you base it on the 6 months ? and was your contact hr ? and what really f***s me off is they expect staff to drag them out the s**t they have caused and bullinger and the rest of his cronies think this is a deal of the century , but yet the think its fine to give the share holders an extra 20p a share bonus :evil/mad , im really f****d off.
Last edited by worktotime on 24 Nov 2021, 05:50, edited 1 time in total.
world class male
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Re: April 21 to September 21

Post by world class male »

worktotime wrote:
23 Nov 2021, 19:59
world class male wrote:
23 Nov 2021, 18:51
worktotime wrote:
23 Nov 2021, 17:52
world class male wrote:
23 Nov 2021, 16:56
ted_e_bear wrote:
23 Nov 2021, 15:12
Yeah fuk all for me, that'll teach me to have 2 weeks holiday in summer and not work either days off the other 2 weeks in that month :evil/mad :evil/mad
same here, failed by less than an hour, i've already submitted a claim,
though i fail to understand how this total cock up of agreement not passed by its members be functional with already 3 months of the qualifying criteria period gone be deemed ok by tp & co,
thus apr21-july21 nobody knew what they had to do to achieve the target and that's not including the 2 years prior and the 5ish years before that!
can't wait to see the 3 amigos doing a retake of the 3 stooges tomorrow teatime when no doubt everything is still fine within the group
how did you claim for this 6 month period as acas base there claims on 12 weeks , and i did 71 hours o/t over the 6 month and got jack s**t again , but if we worked in processing and it was paid at sa you would be paid am i right ? :crazy:
i did well over 100 and got zero, i'd already worked it out it would be tight on a month i was on leave and confirmed today so already had the acas ref number, then just head over to the .gov site, (google employment tribunals) and takes around 10 mins to submit,
i may not get anything or not much due to the time lapsed but it's worth a punt, nothing ventured nothing gained
to right :thumbup , did you base it on the 6 months ? and was your contact hr ? and what really f***s me off is they expect staff to drag them out the s**t they have caused and bullinger and the rest of his cronies think this is a deal of the century , but yet the think its fine to give the share holders an extra 20p a share bonus :evil/mad , im really f****d off with the lot of the idiots .
i eventually found the "qualifying dates" our union didn't tell us as promised at the time (it's on 1 of his videos) as its 4x4 week months, and 2x5 weeks to make up the 26, a gripe is with terry bull5hiiter an co after they signed off this deal halfway through a year when it was too late to do anything if leave already taken before they voted yes on our behalf with an extremely low branch rep turnout, i still cannot fathom this deal was agreed without a full member vote.
i get the going forward and moving on but this plantpot has single handed robbed 1000's of his own members out of potential £100's in arrears
cheers terry, i'll send you an xmas card, maybe easter before you get it mind,
come for dinner 1 day too, i can't afford a cheapo £50 meal, will egg and chips do you? not a clue who's face the egg will be on,
i'll need 2 for yours!
aiden01
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Re: April 21 to September 21

Post by aiden01 »

worktotime wrote:
23 Nov 2021, 17:52
world class male wrote:
23 Nov 2021, 16:56
ted_e_bear wrote:
23 Nov 2021, 15:12
Yeah fuk all for me, that'll teach me to have 2 weeks holiday in summer and not work either days off the other 2 weeks in that month :evil/mad :evil/mad
same here, failed by less than an hour, i've already submitted a claim,
though i fail to understand how this total cock up of agreement not passed by its members be functional with already 3 months of the qualifying criteria period gone be deemed ok by tp & co,
thus apr21-july21 nobody knew what they had to do to achieve the target and that's not including the 2 years prior and the 5ish years before that!
can't wait to see the 3 amigos doing a retake of the 3 stooges tomorrow teatime when no doubt everything is still fine within the group
how did you claim for this 6 month period as acas base there claims on 12 weeks , and i did 71 hours o/t over the 6 month and got jack s**t again , but if we worked in processing and it was paid at sa you would be paid am i right ? :crazy:
No your wrong sa is not paid in the agreement. we get a separte payment for sa when on leave which is a different agreement.
worktotime
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Re: April 21 to September 21

Post by worktotime »

aiden01 wrote:
23 Nov 2021, 21:33
worktotime wrote:
23 Nov 2021, 17:52
world class male wrote:
23 Nov 2021, 16:56
ted_e_bear wrote:
23 Nov 2021, 15:12
Yeah fuk all for me, that'll teach me to have 2 weeks holiday in summer and not work either days off the other 2 weeks in that month :evil/mad :evil/mad
same here, failed by less than an hour, i've already submitted a claim,
though i fail to understand how this total cock up of agreement not passed by its members be functional with already 3 months of the qualifying criteria period gone be deemed ok by tp & co,
thus apr21-july21 nobody knew what they had to do to achieve the target and that's not including the 2 years prior and the 5ish years before that!
can't wait to see the 3 amigos doing a retake of the 3 stooges tomorrow teatime when no doubt everything is still fine within the group
how did you claim for this 6 month period as acas base there claims on 12 weeks , and i did 71 hours o/t over the 6 month and got jack s**t again , but if we worked in processing and it was paid at sa you would be paid am i right ? :crazy:
No your wrong sa is not paid in the agreement. we get a separte payment for sa when on leave which is a different agreement.
i understand its not in the agreement , so is sa overtime already put into your holiday pay ? so you get it when your on leave unlike delivery adhoc o/t which isnt .
aiden01
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Re: April 21 to September 21

Post by aiden01 »

worktotime wrote:
24 Nov 2021, 05:55
aiden01 wrote:
23 Nov 2021, 21:33
worktotime wrote:
23 Nov 2021, 17:52
world class male wrote:
23 Nov 2021, 16:56
ted_e_bear wrote:
23 Nov 2021, 15:12
Yeah fuk all for me, that'll teach me to have 2 weeks holiday in summer and not work either days off the other 2 weeks in that month :evil/mad :evil/mad
same here, failed by less than an hour, i've already submitted a claim,
though i fail to understand how this total cock up of agreement not passed by its members be functional with already 3 months of the qualifying criteria period gone be deemed ok by tp & co,
thus apr21-july21 nobody knew what they had to do to achieve the target and that's not including the 2 years prior and the 5ish years before that!
can't wait to see the 3 amigos doing a retake of the 3 stooges tomorrow teatime when no doubt everything is still fine within the group
how did you claim for this 6 month period as acas base there claims on 12 weeks , and i did 71 hours o/t over the 6 month and got jack s**t again , but if we worked in processing and it was paid at sa you would be paid am i right ? :crazy:
No your wrong sa is not paid in the agreement. we get a separte payment for sa when on leave which is a different agreement.
i understand its not in the agreement , so is sa overtime already put into your holiday pay ? so you get it when your on leave unlike delivery adhoc o/t which isnt .
Again no its not already in holiday pay it has to be earned.. as in you have to peform the sa all yr round otherwise it wont be paid. at least that is my understanding of how it works. never miss mine so always get the 6 payments i'm due.
woofwoof
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Re: April 21 to September 21

Post by woofwoof »

worktotime wrote:
24 Nov 2021, 05:55
aiden01 wrote:
23 Nov 2021, 21:33
worktotime wrote:
23 Nov 2021, 17:52
world class male wrote:
23 Nov 2021, 16:56
ted_e_bear wrote:
23 Nov 2021, 15:12
Yeah fuk all for me, that'll teach me to have 2 weeks holiday in summer and not work either days off the other 2 weeks in that month :evil/mad :evil/mad
same here, failed by less than an hour, i've already submitted a claim,
though i fail to understand how this total cock up of agreement not passed by its members be functional with already 3 months of the qualifying criteria period gone be deemed ok by tp & co,
thus apr21-july21 nobody knew what they had to do to achieve the target and that's not including the 2 years prior and the 5ish years before that!
can't wait to see the 3 amigos doing a retake of the 3 stooges tomorrow teatime when no doubt everything is still fine within the group
how did you claim for this 6 month period as acas base there claims on 12 weeks , and i did 71 hours o/t over the 6 month and got jack s**t again , but if we worked in processing and it was paid at sa you would be paid am i right ? :crazy:
No your wrong sa is not paid in the agreement. we get a separte payment for sa when on leave which is a different agreement.
i understand its not in the agreement , so is sa overtime already put into your holiday pay ? so you get it when your on leave unlike delivery adhoc o/t which isnt .
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