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April 21 to September 21
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woofwoof
- Posts: 1516
- Joined: 13 Apr 2007, 16:23
- Gender: Male
- Location: stinky land
April 21 to September 21
Next payment is on the app
so let the complaints begin
so let the complaints begin
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ted_e_bear
- Posts: 3933
- Joined: 03 Sep 2012, 19:37
- Gender: Male
Re: April 21 to September 21
Yeah fuk all for me, that'll teach me to have 2 weeks holiday in summer and not work either days off the other 2 weeks in that month

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mw7485
- Posts: 123
- Joined: 02 Dec 2013, 15:41
- Gender: Female
Re: April 21 to September 21
I'm rapidly reaching the conclusion that this scheme is really an underhand way of incentivising working days off. After all, there is no rule saying how the monthly qualifying amount is reached (ie, regularity) - only an apparently arbitrary number of hours that just happens to be pretty close to a full time day's hours.
If it wasn't so devious, it'd be pretty clever.
If it wasn't so devious, it'd be pretty clever.
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world class male
- Posts: 899
- Joined: 03 Jul 2013, 15:29
- Gender: Male
Re: April 21 to September 21
same here, failed by less than an hour, i've already submitted a claim,ted_e_bear wrote: ↑23 Nov 2021, 15:12Yeah fuk all for me, that'll teach me to have 2 weeks holiday in summer and not work either days off the other 2 weeks in that month![]()
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though i fail to understand how this total cock up of agreement not passed by its members be functional with already 3 months of the qualifying criteria period gone be deemed ok by tp & co,
thus apr21-july21 nobody knew what they had to do to achieve the target and that's not including the 2 years prior and the 5ish years before that!
can't wait to see the 3 amigos doing a retake of the 3 stooges tomorrow teatime when no doubt everything is still fine within the group
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HTPostman
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 1500
- Joined: 01 Sep 2008, 23:53
- Gender: Male
Re: April 21 to September 21
My biggest concern with the agreement is the ability of management to screw you over. You could be doing 40 hours OT a week for the first 5 periods, all it takes is for the DOM to say OT ban in the 6th period then you miss out and have to put in a claim yourself.
The day is gonna come when we’re all gonna have to testify.
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worktotime
- Posts: 2860
- Joined: 14 May 2010, 20:47
- Gender: Male
Re: April 21 to September 21
how did you claim for this 6 month period as acas base there claims on 12 weeks , and i did 71 hours o/t over the 6 month and got jack s**t again , but if we worked in processing and it was paid at sa you would be paid am i right ?world class male wrote: ↑23 Nov 2021, 16:56same here, failed by less than an hour, i've already submitted a claim,ted_e_bear wrote: ↑23 Nov 2021, 15:12Yeah fuk all for me, that'll teach me to have 2 weeks holiday in summer and not work either days off the other 2 weeks in that month![]()
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though i fail to understand how this total cock up of agreement not passed by its members be functional with already 3 months of the qualifying criteria period gone be deemed ok by tp & co,
thus apr21-july21 nobody knew what they had to do to achieve the target and that's not including the 2 years prior and the 5ish years before that!
can't wait to see the 3 amigos doing a retake of the 3 stooges tomorrow teatime when no doubt everything is still fine within the group
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world class male
- Posts: 899
- Joined: 03 Jul 2013, 15:29
- Gender: Male
Re: April 21 to September 21
i did well over 100 and got zero, i'd already worked it out it would be tight on a month i was on leave and confirmed today so already had the acas ref number, then just head over to the .gov site, (google employment tribunals) and takes around 10 mins to submit,worktotime wrote: ↑23 Nov 2021, 17:52how did you claim for this 6 month period as acas base there claims on 12 weeks , and i did 71 hours o/t over the 6 month and got jack s**t again , but if we worked in processing and it was paid at sa you would be paid am i right ?world class male wrote: ↑23 Nov 2021, 16:56same here, failed by less than an hour, i've already submitted a claim,ted_e_bear wrote: ↑23 Nov 2021, 15:12Yeah fuk all for me, that'll teach me to have 2 weeks holiday in summer and not work either days off the other 2 weeks in that month![]()
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though i fail to understand how this total cock up of agreement not passed by its members be functional with already 3 months of the qualifying criteria period gone be deemed ok by tp & co,
thus apr21-july21 nobody knew what they had to do to achieve the target and that's not including the 2 years prior and the 5ish years before that!
can't wait to see the 3 amigos doing a retake of the 3 stooges tomorrow teatime when no doubt everything is still fine within the group![]()
i may not get anything or not much due to the time lapsed but it's worth a punt, nothing ventured nothing gained
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worktotime
- Posts: 2860
- Joined: 14 May 2010, 20:47
- Gender: Male
Re: April 21 to September 21
to rightworld class male wrote: ↑23 Nov 2021, 18:51i did well over 100 and got zero, i'd already worked it out it would be tight on a month i was on leave and confirmed today so already had the acas ref number, then just head over to the .gov site, (google employment tribunals) and takes around 10 mins to submit,worktotime wrote: ↑23 Nov 2021, 17:52how did you claim for this 6 month period as acas base there claims on 12 weeks , and i did 71 hours o/t over the 6 month and got jack s**t again , but if we worked in processing and it was paid at sa you would be paid am i right ?world class male wrote: ↑23 Nov 2021, 16:56same here, failed by less than an hour, i've already submitted a claim,ted_e_bear wrote: ↑23 Nov 2021, 15:12Yeah fuk all for me, that'll teach me to have 2 weeks holiday in summer and not work either days off the other 2 weeks in that month![]()
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though i fail to understand how this total cock up of agreement not passed by its members be functional with already 3 months of the qualifying criteria period gone be deemed ok by tp & co,
thus apr21-july21 nobody knew what they had to do to achieve the target and that's not including the 2 years prior and the 5ish years before that!
can't wait to see the 3 amigos doing a retake of the 3 stooges tomorrow teatime when no doubt everything is still fine within the group![]()
i may not get anything or not much due to the time lapsed but it's worth a punt, nothing ventured nothing gained
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world class male
- Posts: 899
- Joined: 03 Jul 2013, 15:29
- Gender: Male
Re: April 21 to September 21
i eventually found the "qualifying dates" our union didn't tell us as promised at the time (it's on 1 of his videos) as its 4x4 week months, and 2x5 weeks to make up the 26, a gripe is with terry bull5hiiter an co after they signed off this deal halfway through a year when it was too late to do anything if leave already taken before they voted yes on our behalf with an extremely low branch rep turnout, i still cannot fathom this deal was agreed without a full member vote.worktotime wrote: ↑23 Nov 2021, 19:59to rightworld class male wrote: ↑23 Nov 2021, 18:51i did well over 100 and got zero, i'd already worked it out it would be tight on a month i was on leave and confirmed today so already had the acas ref number, then just head over to the .gov site, (google employment tribunals) and takes around 10 mins to submit,worktotime wrote: ↑23 Nov 2021, 17:52how did you claim for this 6 month period as acas base there claims on 12 weeks , and i did 71 hours o/t over the 6 month and got jack s**t again , but if we worked in processing and it was paid at sa you would be paid am i right ?world class male wrote: ↑23 Nov 2021, 16:56same here, failed by less than an hour, i've already submitted a claim,ted_e_bear wrote: ↑23 Nov 2021, 15:12Yeah fuk all for me, that'll teach me to have 2 weeks holiday in summer and not work either days off the other 2 weeks in that month![]()
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though i fail to understand how this total cock up of agreement not passed by its members be functional with already 3 months of the qualifying criteria period gone be deemed ok by tp & co,
thus apr21-july21 nobody knew what they had to do to achieve the target and that's not including the 2 years prior and the 5ish years before that!
can't wait to see the 3 amigos doing a retake of the 3 stooges tomorrow teatime when no doubt everything is still fine within the group![]()
i may not get anything or not much due to the time lapsed but it's worth a punt, nothing ventured nothing gained, did you base it on the 6 months ? and was your contact hr ? and what really f***s me off is they expect staff to drag them out the s**t they have caused and bullinger and the rest of his cronies think this is a deal of the century , but yet the think its fine to give the share holders an extra 20p a share bonus
, im really f****d off with the lot of the idiots .
i get the going forward and moving on but this plantpot has single handed robbed 1000's of his own members out of potential £100's in arrears
cheers terry, i'll send you an xmas card, maybe easter before you get it mind,
come for dinner 1 day too, i can't afford a cheapo £50 meal, will egg and chips do you? not a clue who's face the egg will be on,
i'll need 2 for yours!
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aiden01
- MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
- Posts: 7001
- Joined: 27 Feb 2013, 21:43
- Gender: Male
Re: April 21 to September 21
No your wrong sa is not paid in the agreement. we get a separte payment for sa when on leave which is a different agreement.worktotime wrote: ↑23 Nov 2021, 17:52how did you claim for this 6 month period as acas base there claims on 12 weeks , and i did 71 hours o/t over the 6 month and got jack s**t again , but if we worked in processing and it was paid at sa you would be paid am i right ?world class male wrote: ↑23 Nov 2021, 16:56same here, failed by less than an hour, i've already submitted a claim,ted_e_bear wrote: ↑23 Nov 2021, 15:12Yeah fuk all for me, that'll teach me to have 2 weeks holiday in summer and not work either days off the other 2 weeks in that month![]()
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though i fail to understand how this total cock up of agreement not passed by its members be functional with already 3 months of the qualifying criteria period gone be deemed ok by tp & co,
thus apr21-july21 nobody knew what they had to do to achieve the target and that's not including the 2 years prior and the 5ish years before that!
can't wait to see the 3 amigos doing a retake of the 3 stooges tomorrow teatime when no doubt everything is still fine within the group![]()
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worktotime
- Posts: 2860
- Joined: 14 May 2010, 20:47
- Gender: Male
Re: April 21 to September 21
i understand its not in the agreement , so is sa overtime already put into your holiday pay ? so you get it when your on leave unlike delivery adhoc o/t which isnt .aiden01 wrote: ↑23 Nov 2021, 21:33No your wrong sa is not paid in the agreement. we get a separte payment for sa when on leave which is a different agreement.worktotime wrote: ↑23 Nov 2021, 17:52how did you claim for this 6 month period as acas base there claims on 12 weeks , and i did 71 hours o/t over the 6 month and got jack s**t again , but if we worked in processing and it was paid at sa you would be paid am i right ?world class male wrote: ↑23 Nov 2021, 16:56same here, failed by less than an hour, i've already submitted a claim,ted_e_bear wrote: ↑23 Nov 2021, 15:12Yeah fuk all for me, that'll teach me to have 2 weeks holiday in summer and not work either days off the other 2 weeks in that month![]()
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though i fail to understand how this total cock up of agreement not passed by its members be functional with already 3 months of the qualifying criteria period gone be deemed ok by tp & co,
thus apr21-july21 nobody knew what they had to do to achieve the target and that's not including the 2 years prior and the 5ish years before that!
can't wait to see the 3 amigos doing a retake of the 3 stooges tomorrow teatime when no doubt everything is still fine within the group![]()
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aiden01
- MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
- Posts: 7001
- Joined: 27 Feb 2013, 21:43
- Gender: Male
Re: April 21 to September 21
Again no its not already in holiday pay it has to be earned.. as in you have to peform the sa all yr round otherwise it wont be paid. at least that is my understanding of how it works. never miss mine so always get the 6 payments i'm due.worktotime wrote: ↑24 Nov 2021, 05:55i understand its not in the agreement , so is sa overtime already put into your holiday pay ? so you get it when your on leave unlike delivery adhoc o/t which isnt .aiden01 wrote: ↑23 Nov 2021, 21:33No your wrong sa is not paid in the agreement. we get a separte payment for sa when on leave which is a different agreement.worktotime wrote: ↑23 Nov 2021, 17:52how did you claim for this 6 month period as acas base there claims on 12 weeks , and i did 71 hours o/t over the 6 month and got jack s**t again , but if we worked in processing and it was paid at sa you would be paid am i right ?world class male wrote: ↑23 Nov 2021, 16:56same here, failed by less than an hour, i've already submitted a claim,ted_e_bear wrote: ↑23 Nov 2021, 15:12Yeah fuk all for me, that'll teach me to have 2 weeks holiday in summer and not work either days off the other 2 weeks in that month![]()
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though i fail to understand how this total cock up of agreement not passed by its members be functional with already 3 months of the qualifying criteria period gone be deemed ok by tp & co,
thus apr21-july21 nobody knew what they had to do to achieve the target and that's not including the 2 years prior and the 5ish years before that!
can't wait to see the 3 amigos doing a retake of the 3 stooges tomorrow teatime when no doubt everything is still fine within the group![]()
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woofwoof
- Posts: 1516
- Joined: 13 Apr 2007, 16:23
- Gender: Male
- Location: stinky land
Re: April 21 to September 21
Try thisworktotime wrote: ↑24 Nov 2021, 05:55i understand its not in the agreement , so is sa overtime already put into your holiday pay ? so you get it when your on leave unlike delivery adhoc o/t which isnt .aiden01 wrote: ↑23 Nov 2021, 21:33No your wrong sa is not paid in the agreement. we get a separte payment for sa when on leave which is a different agreement.worktotime wrote: ↑23 Nov 2021, 17:52how did you claim for this 6 month period as acas base there claims on 12 weeks , and i did 71 hours o/t over the 6 month and got jack s**t again , but if we worked in processing and it was paid at sa you would be paid am i right ?world class male wrote: ↑23 Nov 2021, 16:56same here, failed by less than an hour, i've already submitted a claim,ted_e_bear wrote: ↑23 Nov 2021, 15:12Yeah fuk all for me, that'll teach me to have 2 weeks holiday in summer and not work either days off the other 2 weeks in that month![]()
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though i fail to understand how this total cock up of agreement not passed by its members be functional with already 3 months of the qualifying criteria period gone be deemed ok by tp & co,
thus apr21-july21 nobody knew what they had to do to achieve the target and that's not including the 2 years prior and the 5ish years before that!
can't wait to see the 3 amigos doing a retake of the 3 stooges tomorrow teatime when no doubt everything is still fine within the group![]()
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