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I have an employee in my team who is in a vulnerable group and they have stated that they want to come to work? What should I do?

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I have an employee in my team who is considered clinically extremely vulnerable and has an NHS letter advising them to shield again. They have stated that they want to come to work? What should I do?

Shielding ended on 31 July 2020 (16 August in Wales), so employees who cannot work from home could return to work as our workplaces are ‘COVID-19 secure’. Since that date, there may be cases of local/regional/national restrictions or lockdowns (e.g. the lockdown in England from 5 November to 2 December 2020) where those employees who were previously shielding self are advised to do so again. There may also be other employees who were not previously shielding, but due to a change in circumstances are now advised to, e.g. they are undergoing chemotherapy.

People who have clinically extremely vulnerable status are at very high risk of severe illness from COVID-19, so if an employee receives a letter from the UK Government/NHS advising them to shield, they should do so. If they are unable to work from home, they should not come to work. We encourage our managers to contact them to check their current situation.

In these cases, we want to financially support our employees and facilitate shielding during the lockdown. For this reason, we’ll be offering Royal Mail sick pay to people who are clinically extremely vulnerable. We will also provide financial support to those in that group who are due to move on to half pay, nil pay or Statutory Sick Pay (SSP).

More details of this support will be communicated shortly. When the shielding period is coming to an end, managers should use the Return to work toolkit to discuss with employees about returning to work and contact HR Advice and Support where necessary. Please note that the advice could change, so always check the Public Health website for the very latest position.

UPDATED 10 NOV 2020

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I have an employee in my team who is in a vulnerable group and they have stated that they want to come to work? What should I do?

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love the Royal Mail stance "WE ADVISE" but we are not paying you,so if you can walk and carry a bag get yourself to work. :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
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Well that's a new one on me But if they feel OK with it is up to them they will not be anymore danger than anyone else to you or others. It is their own life we can but explain dangers of behaviours but ultimately it is an informed choice of which only that individual can make!
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k979aaa wrote:Well that's a new one on me But if they feel OK with it is up to them they will not be anymore danger than anyone else to you or others. It is their own life we can but explain dangers of behaviours but ultimately it is an informed choice of which only that individual can make!
True they are no more likely to get the virus but if they do they will probably need critical care in hospital which puts more strain on the nhs
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k979aaa wrote:Well that's a new one on me But if they feel OK with it is up to them they will not be anymore danger than anyone else to you or others. It is their own life we can but explain dangers of behaviours but ultimately it is an informed choice of which only that individual can make!
It might have insurance implications i would be very careful if i was in his position.
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Im sure if you said to him you'll get full pay for 12 weeks he would be gone in a flash.
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If you carried on working against medical instructions to self isolate , you may not be covered by insurance, would that be correct ?
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NWpostie wrote:If you carried on working against medical instructions to self isolate , you may not be covered by insurance, would that be correct ?
Your own personal life insurance possibly depending on the policy.
Royal Mail's employer liability insurance no.
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Updated 12 June

‘Extremely clinically vulnerable’ employees I have an employee in my team who is in the extremely clinically vulnerable group and they have stated that they want to come to work?

What should I do? If an employee is in the extremely clinically vulnerable group (they should have received a letter(s)/confirmation from NHS in this regard), they are strongly advised to ‘shield’, stay at home as much as possible and avoid face to face contact.

We are aware the NHS is contacting employees in this group again with updated letters/advice, so we encourage our managers to contact those employees to check their current situation.

Managers should use the Return to work toolkit communicated on 12 June 2020 and contact HR Advice and Support where necessary. Please note that the advice could change so always check the Public Health website for the very latest position.
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I have an employee in my team who is in a vulnerable group and they have stated that they want to come to work? What should I do?

The UK governments have announced changes to shielding advice.

The current advice is that shielding will end on 31 July 2020 (16 August in Wales), so employees who cannot work from home can return to work, with the relevant protective measures in place, from 1st August (17 August in Wales).

If an employee is in the extremely clinically vulnerable group (they should have received a letter(s)/confirmation from NHS in this regard), they are strongly advised to ‘shield’, stay at home as much as possible and avoid face to face contact.

We are aware the NHS is contacting employees in this group again with updated letters/advice, so we encourage our managers to contact those employees to check their current situation.

Managers should use the relevant Return to work toolkit and supporting documents to start discussions with employees about returning to work and contact HR Advice and Support where necessary.

Please note that the advice could change, so always check the Public Health website for the very latest position.

UPDATED 6 JULY 2020

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It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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I have an employee in my team who is in a vulnerable group and they have stated that they want to come to work? What should I do?

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I have an employee in my team who is considered clinically extremely vulnerable and has an NHS letter advising them to shield again. They have stated that they want to come to work? What should I do?

Shielding ended on 31 July 2020 (16 August in Wales), so employees who cannot work from home could return to work as our workplaces are ‘COVID-19 secure’. Since that date, there may be cases of local/regional/national restrictions or lockdowns (e.g. the lockdown in England from 5 November to 2 December 2020) where those employees who were previously shielding self are advised to do so again. There may also be other employees who were not previously shielding, but due to a change in circumstances are now advised to, e.g. they are undergoing chemotherapy.

People who have clinically extremely vulnerable status are at very high risk of severe illness from COVID-19, so if an employee receives a letter from the UK Government/NHS advising them to shield, they should do so. If they are unable to work from home, they should not come to work. We encourage our managers to contact them to check their current situation.

In these cases, we want to financially support our employees and facilitate shielding during the lockdown. For this reason, we’ll be offering Royal Mail sick pay to people who are clinically extremely vulnerable. We will also provide financial support to those in that group who are due to move on to half pay, nil pay or Statutory Sick Pay (SSP).

More details of this support will be communicated shortly. When the shielding period is coming to an end, managers should use the Return to work toolkit to discuss with employees about returning to work and contact HR Advice and Support where necessary. Please note that the advice could change, so always check the Public Health website for the very latest position.

UPDATED 10 NOV 2020

2nd post PDF in the Global Announcement...
https://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communi ... 71&t=94715" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.