Lapsing

[raid2506]

Hi all,

Can somebody point me in the direction of a document which outlines the rules and regs around lapsing?
It seems to be used most days in my DO to save pulling in any cover and often as a threat.

I'm particularly concerned about the requirement to take it out at the start of delivery putting extra pressure on posties.
I assumed you would do your own delivery return to DO and then take lapsing out if time allowed? Seems not to be the case...

Seems it wouldn't be such a bad thing in a big office, maybe a bundle or two per person but in a small office it's often a full bag or more plus packets.

Cheers.

[Creditshampoo]

If you don’t think you have enough time you don’t take it. They’ll pressure you but you don’t have to take it.
Come back on your time they can’t do anything. If they order you to take it blah blah say it will fail and get it in writing that you contest. Once/if the Mail is failed you have it in black and white and can open up a bullying complaint.
They’ll leave you alone from then on.

[postslippete]

Once you make a stand and never take it, they know you mean business and they generally know what to expect. Now and again they may insist and quote performance standards blah blah

[Creditshampoo]

Once you make a stand and never take it, they know you mean business and they generally know what to expect. Now and again they may insist and quote performance standards blah blah

Yea then you could take it out after insisting you can’t do it in writing then go over then maybe have more success in and b and h complaint

[Celgar]

Hi all,

Can somebody point me in the direction of a document which outlines the rules and regs around lapsing?
It seems to be used most days in my DO to save pulling in any cover and often as a threat.

I'm particularly concerned about the requirement to take it out at the start of delivery putting extra pressure on posties.
I assumed you would do your own delivery return to DO and then take lapsing out if time allowed? Seems not to be the case...

Seems it wouldn't be such a bad thing in a big office, maybe a bundle or two per person but in a small office it's often a full bag or more plus packets.

Cheers.

I'm not aware of there are any rules regarding in what order lapsed mail is delivered. When our DO was run by our previous manager we were told to do the lapsing first and if we had to cut off due to running out of time then you would bring mail from your own walk back. Then the idea was if the same thing happened the next day we would pick a different section of our walks mail and bring that back. This was a number of years ago and the situation is different now as you can't bring mail back undelivered.
Nowadays we have a different DOM who is actually a competent manager of the office. We have made the walks a lot bigger than they were so we usually only lapse in the 'summertime' largely to enable more spaces for weeks of summer leave. We can deliver the lapsed mail when we want to within duty time now so due to SDs we would usually do it after our own walks. At other times of the year when we are short staffed we do what we would lapse in summer but get paid overtime. Alternatively if there are spare staff at another office we borrow a postie for the day.