After attending a formal conduct meeting with Royal Mail on Friday 23rd September 2016 it is the RM's manager's decision that I will be dismissed without notice, (summarily dismissed) my last day of service will be Saturday 01st October 2016.
I have responded with my comments/amendments to the notes I received from the manager in respect of the meeting on Friday 23rd September 2016.
I was informed of this decision in writing yesterday. I was also informed I am entitled to one appeal against the decision.
Below contains verbatim points raised from the formal interview on Friday 23rd September 2016 the managers comments/reasoning appear below my numbered points.
1. No contact number was given to me to report that I would not be able to complete the duty
I believe I answered this at the interview when Mr X agreed that he did have a contact number but made no attempt to contact this number.
2. It was raised by the CWU that Mr X had mis-judged the amount of mail he could complete.
I believe that Mr X did not mis-judge the amount of mail I believe that Mr X did have ample time to deliver the mail that he had left the unit with and this is supported by 2 statements, it is also my belief that on the day in question, Mr X went out of his way to make sure he delayed the mail, this is shown by the length of the indoor compared with what it should have taken when questioned at the interview over this Mr X response was it was it was what it was.
My Response to nr 1.
Prior to undertaking delivery I attempted to gain 3 managers phone numbers should I run into difficulty. All 3 declined. I did not call the office. I did have the number; but not on my person. It is stored on an old phone.
My Response to nr 2.
I mis-judged the amount of mail. I certainly did not go out of my way to delay mail. I disagree with statements obtained from 2 fellow employees.
I have attempted to keep my outline of events as concise as possible for now; while illustrating the unfortunate predicament I find myself in.
I would be grateful for any thoughts comments.
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Gross Misconduct Intentional Delay
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Spedley
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It looks like you may be stuffed. The only things that spring to mind are:
You did not take your whole delivery with you. What would be the point of leaving some at the office and then also cutting off and bringing mail back? Even if you had been working slower when prepping, that is unrelated to your delivery speed which would need separate evidence to qualify it. If you were told to take a specific quantity of mail then it wasn't your misjudgement.
It seems that management were aware there was an issue that needed resolving which could result in the delay of mail and yet they appear not to have given you clear guidelines on the cutting off procedure and the possible consequences of not doing it properly. I think dismissal without notice is an excessive judgement for a first offence with no criminal intent.
Also, I believe issues like this should be performed by a specifically trained DOM from another office and be based purely on evidence gathered.
Your problem now is getting anyone to listen to you.
You did not take your whole delivery with you. What would be the point of leaving some at the office and then also cutting off and bringing mail back? Even if you had been working slower when prepping, that is unrelated to your delivery speed which would need separate evidence to qualify it. If you were told to take a specific quantity of mail then it wasn't your misjudgement.
It seems that management were aware there was an issue that needed resolving which could result in the delay of mail and yet they appear not to have given you clear guidelines on the cutting off procedure and the possible consequences of not doing it properly. I think dismissal without notice is an excessive judgement for a first offence with no criminal intent.
Also, I believe issues like this should be performed by a specifically trained DOM from another office and be based purely on evidence gathered.
Your problem now is getting anyone to listen to you.
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charged526
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Spedley Thanks very much for your comments. I think your right; the problem is getting anyone to listen. I going to attempt to resolve this. One way or the other until I obtain a result perhaps it is best to keep correspondence to a minimum. I do intend to comment in the future as it may help others. Thanks once again for now.