Who are you voting for in the Labour leadership election?

Post by **britwrit** » 22 Jul 2015, 05:07

Like it says on the tin...?

dounome · Post by **dounome** » 22 Jul 2015, 15:29

wouldnt waste any vote on any Labour Government

Post by **Lounge Lizard** » 22 Jul 2015, 16:33

dounome wrote:wouldnt waste any vote on any Labour Government

- but there's not going to be a Labour Government without a Labour leader.

motherhubbard · Post by **motherhubbard** » 22 Jul 2015, 16:58

I see Liz Kendall has visited the site.

postypie · Post by **postypie** » 22 Jul 2015, 21:18

They all come across as boring and characterless to me and hardly 'leaders' in my book.
Labour are in a right mess...now they are even turning against each other much to the Tories delight no doubt!

NWpostie · Post by **NWpostie** » 22 Jul 2015, 22:24

Its looking they are lurching even further to left under Jeremy Corbyn if he gets in, its Ed Miliband all over again. this will only guarantee that Labour will be unelectable at the next election and ensure another Tory government.

borgpicard · Post by **borgpicard** » 23 Jul 2015, 16:22

The last thing we need is a leftie loon running the labour party, it already has more than its fair share of Loonys.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 23 Jul 2015, 17:12

borgpicard wrote:The last thing we need is a leftie loon running the labour party, it already has more than its fair share of Loonys.

But the righties got us into illegal wars and they aren't attacking the Tories polices on the poor, they keep getting outflanked and dragged further right.

If you want a Right Wing government or a centrist one then Vote Conservative or Liberal. let labour lurch to the left for one leader and at least we'll have a clean and clear choice. Being perceived as more left wing than the socialists hasn't hurt then SNP, even when its mixed with some of their right wing policies. The difference is they offered hope and alternatives rather than Tory Lite that labour push.

As I have said before on here and FB, I don't want a Party who wants power purely for being in charge (New Labour), but one that gets in power by sticking to their core principles. By sticking to their principles they can make change even when not in power, unlike the shameful abstention over the Welfare Bill.

dounome · Post by **dounome** » 23 Jul 2015, 20:33

Lounge Lizard wrote:
dounome wrote:wouldnt waste any vote on any Labour Government
- but there's not going to be a Labour Government without a Labour leader.

Dont quibble, no one from the labour party gets my vote ever again as they sold this company down the river.

jetblack · Post by **jetblack** » 23 Jul 2015, 20:33

NWpostie wrote:Its looking they are lurching even further to left under Jeremy Corbyn if he gets in, its Ed Miliband all over again. this will only guarantee that Labour will be unelectable at the next election and ensure another Tory government.

Further to the left ? You mean, Labour are a left wing party ?? LOL.

If you are really really lucky Andy Burnham might have a very slight chance of becoming PM (coalition leader of course) - but then what would you have ended up with ? Another tory Govt under another name.

Give Corbyn a chance I say - give socialism a chance. The right wing hegemony machine/ media will loathe him of course - but maybe for once the people of Britain might see through it.

Lets have an alternative in British politics.

Post by **flaminmoses** » 24 Jul 2015, 12:16

Democracy is outdated in its current form.
Too much emphasis on the characteristics of the "Leader" rather than what the party deliver.

Think like the tories labour arent actually in it for the working man...ok yes they are more in favour but the handling of the eu with us for instance when germany and france stood up for their own when dealing with postal monopolies will never be forgotten.

Labour are just as bad as the rest....well almost.
no one is as bad as the current bunch of sc um

NWpostie · Post by **NWpostie** » 24 Jul 2015, 15:42

jetblack wrote:
NWpostie wrote:Its looking they are lurching even further to left under Jeremy Corbyn if he gets in, its Ed Miliband all over again. this will only guarantee that Labour will be unelectable at the next election and ensure another Tory government.
Further to the left ? You mean, Labour are a left wing party ?? LOL.

If you are really really lucky Andy Burnham might have a very slight chance of becoming PM (coalition leader of course) - but then what would you have ended up with ? Another tory Govt under another name.

Give Corbyn a chance I say - give socialism a chance. The right wing hegemony machine/ media will loathe him of course - but maybe for once the people of Britain might see through it.

Lets have an alternative in British politics.

The centre ground would have been better taking the best of both political theorems and rejecting the worst, I would suggest pragmatic socialism, not radical 70s 80s style, this cost Labour a lot, in lost opportunities and ushered in long decades of Tory Government, it's not me and party activists you have to convince , you have to convince the general population as they have the most votes.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 24 Jul 2015, 15:47

Pragmatic Socialism - thats quite close to my Politcs - I describe myself as a Left Wing Libertarian.

BarnsleyLackey · Post by **BarnsleyLackey** » 26 Jul 2015, 12:32

Francis Urquhart.

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