Delivering election material

[falkirk1]

Need some advice on this, I've been informed that when you go over your time you don't get paid overtime because you are getting paid extra to deliver election material that can't be right surely.

[spiderj]

Aye but here's the tricky bit to explain to yer lino
If normal mail takes you over you can claim

[falkirk1]

I do a 6 hour shift never got out until about 2 hours into it due to boxing in and lapsing a duty, 45 mins walk there and back, 30 mins break, leaving me 2 hrs 45 mins to do my duty. I was 50 mins over so surely that can't go down to election material.

[IcanthelpthewayIam]

Depends on the amount of election material really, prepping 3 or 4 items of election material and delivering to a 100% call rate on an average size duty would take a fair big chunk if not all of 50 minutes to be honest, basically you need to ask yourself if there was no election material to prep and deliver would you have finished on time if yes then no overtime, if no then claim over time

[falkirk1]

Election material wasn't to blame I only done 209, just think they are using this as an excuse to try and shaft you.

[IcanthelpthewayIam]

In that case get your rep to lodge a disagreement over it for not following national agreements

[POSTMAN]

Ignore the date,it still applies...

Subject: RE: Elections 2014

Sent: 02 April 2014 11:44
To: Bobby Gibson
Cc: Hayley Nutley; Andrew Martin
Subject: RE: Elections 2014

Dear Bob

I’m happy to confirm that we take exactly the same view on the extended delivery issue. The unit payments mean we don’t pay overtime for the election material or poll cards but if the volume of ‘non-election material’ workload requires overtime then yes that should be paid in the normal way. The fact that we make election material unit payments on the day does not mean there can be no extended delivery overtime.

Andy and I can make this clear to colleagues.

On your second point you’re right we do recognise there may be occasions where the volume of poll cards and other mail mean is it simply not possible to maintain the full product service specification. But we have to be careful about how we can say this in our communications. We ask people to do all they reasonably can and if having done so some poll cards fall back to the next delivery we would not withhold the unit payment. As you say we will be pragmatic where necessary. I sent the words in red below to our heads of IR in response to a request for clarity on what DOMs should do in the event that volume made it impossible to clear the poll cards on one day.

While we make every effort to meet these service standards there are occasions when volumes make this impossible and some fall into the next delivery. We do not intend to withhold unit payments in the event of this happening.

Dale Lang, Royal Mail head of Industrial Relations

[falkirk1]

Thanks lads just making sure