CWU...WE'RE LOSING GROUND...TIME TO MOVE FORWARD!!!

tenpole tudorsack · Post by **tenpole tudorsack** » 21 Oct 2007, 00:57

I CLASS MYSELF AS PRETTY LAID BACK AND OPEN TO SUGGESTION. BUT I HAVE A PROBLEM AT THE MOMENT, IN THAT WE ARE STALLED AND ALL I SEE ARE BACKLOGS DIMINISHING. I HAVE PAID MY UNION FEES FOR MANY YEARS IN THE HOPE THAT WHEN I NEED HELP THEY WILL PROVIDE THE ANSWERS AND THE BACKING. I HAVE YET TO SEE EITHER. AM I BEING NEGATIVE? I STILL AWAIT DIRECTION FROM THE CWU, THERE IS NOTHING COMING OUT OF THESE MEETINGS TO THE RANK AND FILE AND THE LONGER THIS GOES ON THE MORE DISTRUST EVOLVES. WE NEED CLEAR DIRECTION...IF THERE ARE POINTS IN THE NEGOTIATIONS THAT DON'T ADD UP, TALK TO THE PEOPLE, OR ARE THEY AFRAID OF WHAT HAS BEEN AGREED?

tenpole tudorsack · Post by **tenpole tudorsack** » 21 Oct 2007, 01:16

SORRY I'M BABBLING...ENGLAND LOST IN THE RUGBY AND I'VE HAD A FEW SHERBERTS, DOH!
WE SHOULD HAVE GIVEN RM NOTICE OF FURTHER STRIKE ACTION THE MINUTE WE SAT DOWN WITH THEM, TO PUSH THE "WE MEAN BUSINESS" ATTITUDE THROUGH. THE CURRENT STATUS MEANS WHATEVER THE OUTCOME WE HAVE LOST MOMENTUM AND THE EFFORT WE HAVE PUT THUS FAR HAS DIMINISHED...

IWW Fellow Worker · Post by **IWW Fellow Worker** » 21 Oct 2007, 01:24

tenpole tudorsack wrote:SORRY I'M BABBLING...ENGLAND LOST IN THE RUGBY AND I'VE HAD A FEW SHERBERTS, DOH!
WE SHOULD HAVE GIVEN RM NOTICE OF FURTHER STRIKE ACTION THE MINUTE WE SAT DOWN WITH THEM, TO PUSH THE "WE MEAN BUSINESS" ATTITUDE THROUGH. THE CURRENT STATUS MEANS WHATEVER THE OUTCOME WE HAVE LOST MOMENTUM AND THE EFFORT WE HAVE PUT THUS FAR HAS DIMINISHED...

Absolutely correct! The leadership of the CWU should have learned the lesson of early August and announced strike dates. Last week was a legal cock-up, but there was no reason that I can think of why strike dates should not have been announced for the forthcoming week.

buzzer · Post by **buzzer** » 21 Oct 2007, 17:53

There are 2 possibilities to be gleaned from the news blackout at union HQ. Either they are so close to a deal that they don't care about the backlog of post, and they just need to tidy things up. Or----a big enough majority of the PEC cannot in their wildest dreams imagine accepting what is put in front of them. Even after drinking ample quantities of champagne supplied by there virtuous hosts. Knowing the track record of messrs Leighton & Crozier, it's more likely the latter. In which case, more rolling strikes will be announced early next week. :lfo :cfo

wont cross the line · Post by **wont cross the line** » 21 Oct 2007, 19:35

YOU SHOULD HAVE A PLAN B BUT SOME TIMES IT DOESNT LOOK LIKE WE HAVE A PLAN A

jinglejangle · Post by **jinglejangle** » 21 Oct 2007, 19:42

TOTALLY AGREE.WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE NEXT STRIKE DATES.NOT LET RM MESS US ABOUT AGAIN AND THEN BACK TO SQUARE ONE.

COME ON CWU.WE ARE ALL BEHIND MORE STRIKE ACTION.LETS GET IT ON.

oxon · Post by **oxon** » 21 Oct 2007, 20:32

We are not going to win so say ..... YES to RM. Whats the point having so many strikes? Labour government is with Royal Mail... so its very difficult to beat not one but two ... say yes and hope for best .

jinglejangle · Post by **jinglejangle** » 21 Oct 2007, 20:38

BEWARE BEWARE !!!! OXON IS MANAGEMENT IN DISGUISE.EITHER THAT OR IT HAS NO BALLS.

COME ON LADS STAY STRONG.

heston · Post by **heston** » 21 Oct 2007, 20:48

OXON GET A GRIP SON, U SOUND LIKE A QUIVERING WRECK.WE AINT GIVING IN TO YOU AND THE REST O RM MANAGEMENT,8 WEEKS TO XMAS, U CAN STICK YOUR FLEXABILITY,EXECUTIVE ACTION,UP YOUR ARSE, THE CLOCK IS TICKING SON AND THE MAIL IS MOUNTING,

IWW Fellow Worker · Post by **IWW Fellow Worker** » 21 Oct 2007, 21:07

Throw that white flag away oxon, wave a red one (or a black one) and say "Bollocks to the bosses!"

DirtyHarry · Post by **DirtyHarry** » 21 Oct 2007, 21:30

oxon wrote:We are not going to win so say ..... YES to RM. Whats the point having so many strikes? Labour government is with Royal Mail... so its very difficult to beat not one but two ... say yes and hope for best .

Feck off. I share with a good many colleagues on here, and all around the country, the feeling that we should stand our ground
and fight these b'stards :lfo :cfo .

You, on the other hand, are in that minority of colleagues who are happy to live their lives on their knees, to always settle for the crumbs from your
master's table, rather than demand your slice of the pie.

I do not for one moment, envy you.

postman1965 · Post by **postman1965** » 21 Oct 2007, 21:35

i want this over ,so if it no good, lets hit the streets and get it over and done with ,no coming in a few days later after meetings with rm, people are getting sick of this on off strike ,get it sorted and the only way is all out

IWW Fellow Worker · Post by **IWW Fellow Worker** » 21 Oct 2007, 21:36

Nice one Harry! It's our pie. We made it, and we want it all for ourselves.

As the great James Connolly put it:

"Our demands, most moderate are,
We only want the earth!"

goinpostal · Post by **goinpostal** » 21 Oct 2007, 21:37

that's right time for all out! Lets bring them to their knees :lfo :cfo

L Tommo · Post by **L Tommo** » 21 Oct 2007, 21:52

oxon wrote:We are not going to win so say ..... YES to RM. Whats the point having so many strikes? Labour government is with Royal Mail... so its very difficult to beat not one but two ... say yes and hope for best .

I aint gonna rant OXON... I just hope you see the fight aint over till we say its over... the CWU ,, US... Not the HQ or the PEC... US...... We call the shots We say how Billy n Dave act in the meetings... IF THEY DONT... OUT THEY GO AS WELL... MAJORITY RULES... We all had our say... WE DONT NEED TO BE BALLOTED AGAIN BUT IF NEEDS BE IM UP FOR ANY VOTE OR STRIKE. If it brings Big Al n lil adam to there knees and out of a job.... FECK EM!!!

Oxon fella.... Get back in the fold ... We need people,, good people that come on here to take it to the DO'S and MC's and RDC's and MEDC's all over the UK...

POSTCOMM AND LIE-BOUR WILL LISTEN IF WE MAKE A STAND... 130000 VOICES MAKE A SWAY IN ANY COUNT....

LIE-BOUR CAN TAKE US HEAD ON IF THEY LIKE... THEY WILL RUE THE DAY... Lets start by NOT GIVING THEM ANYTHING IN OUR UNION FEES.... Then get billy and anyother political backslider that wants a leg up into a nice little mp's job.... We fight for our jobs and service.. They fight on our backs and our pain..... FECK EM ALL.....

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