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D2D costing RM ?

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Postie45
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D2D costing RM ?

Post by Postie45 »

So in its infinite wisdom, RM has decided to give us 7 items of D2D items this week. I dont understand why RM would want to issue us with so many, as it makes the job unachievable in the contracted working hours. The only way duties have been completed on Monday and today is by way of overtime (90 minutes per day so far), or by people cutting off and causing a delivery failure - purely because of D2D !
if that carries on over the rest of the week, how much money are RM actually making off these items ? Dont they also get fined for deliveries which dont get completed ? I think its very likely they could be losing money from accepting so many contracts.
rubberbond
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Post by rubberbond »

That's one part of it, one other part is that they just get delivered anywhere,for example, estate agent leaflets to sheltered housing complexes,predominantly social housing estates. It seems to me they just try and get as many contracts in without their being targeted properly.
Bahia Feliz
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Re: D2D costing RM ?

Post by Bahia Feliz »

a lot of people prep them in on a Saturday before they go home or after their delivery for the next day,all in duty time or their own time!
ted_e_bear
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Re: D2D costing RM ?

Post by ted_e_bear »

No the way to do it is come in early for free and/or stay late and put them in for free, oh s**t no that's wrong but its what some of the numpties at our place do !
Postie45
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Re: D2D costing RM ?

Post by Postie45 »

yeah, theres probably enough people doing that to make it still profitable for RM
fishtank
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Re: D2D costing RM ?

Post by fishtank »

How can you be racking up 90 minutes overtime over 2 days purely because of D2D?
Delivery shouldn't really take any longer than 2 or 3 so how long is it taking you to prep 7 D2D?
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Postie45
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Re: D2D costing RM ?

Post by Postie45 »

quite simply, Monday and Tuesday are both days with double columns for D2D on my frame, its a heck of a lot of households to get prepped, this has the knock of effect of bags which usually can be carried now having to be put on a trolley which also takes longer.
Lounge Lizard
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Re: D2D costing RM ?

Post by Lounge Lizard »

Postie45 wrote:So in its infinite wisdom, RM has decided to give us 7 items of D2D items this week. I dont understand why RM would want to issue us with so many, as it makes the job unachievable in the contracted working hours. The only way duties have been completed on Monday and today is by way of overtime (90 minutes per day so far), or by people cutting off and causing a delivery failure - purely because of D2D !
if that carries on over the rest of the week, how much money are RM actually making off these items ? Dont they also get fined for deliveries which dont get completed ? I think its very likely they could be losing money from accepting so many contracts.
As for how much money are RM actually making off these items they're taking 5p each leaflet so that's 35p for each Delivery Point or well over £100 for each round with 450 or so houses so, less costs of the bundling centres, it's still good money. :thumbup
Shaders
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Post by Shaders »

Look on the bright side, we'll soon have election material to go with the D2D lol
redneck
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Post by redneck »

D2D's are delivered by magic, didn't you know :crazy:

One lad in our office was putting them in yesterday afternoon when he had finished, claiming it on a rather generous SA allowance!
IloveMYredTROLLEY!
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Re: D2D costing RM ?

Post by IloveMYredTROLLEY! »

Prepping 7 D2D (without nesting them) took me ~75mins for ~160 delivery points a while back.

If they are not nested, as per spec, that is 7 items to filter (before we even talk about any letters for the next address) while stationary which will use more outdoor time.

Extra indoor and outdoor workload, more likely to create extra cut off and/or overtime.*


* Too many OPGs, at least at my depot, put all "pressure" overtime down as extended delivery. If your 318 states you should be leaving the depot at 1000, but you left at 1030, the first 30mins of any overtime claim should be against INDOOR WORK, not extended del! If you have 7 D2D one week taking up that extra indoor work time, state that on the overtime sheet.
Decky Boy
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Post by Decky Boy »

Don't worry pal... there's money in it for RM http://www.royalmail.com/node/19354017" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And also http://www.royalmail.com/sites/default/ ... l2014a.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
miles_peters
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Re: D2D costing RM ?

Post by miles_peters »

fishtank wrote:How can you be racking up 90 minutes overtime over 2 days purely because of D2D?
Delivery shouldn't really take any longer than 2 or 3 so how long is it taking you to prep 7 D2D?
2 OR 3?
DB1100
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Post by DB1100 »

fishtank wrote:How can you be racking up 90 minutes overtime over 2 days purely because of D2D?
Delivery shouldn't really take any longer than 2 or 3 so how long is it taking you to prep 7 D2D?
Easy,I'm a P/T and my round is supposed to be prepped for me,it's usually part prepped when I get in with stuff left all over the frame,all this has to be cleared out of the way to make room to lay out 7 d2d's on my frame,then I have to try and wedge 14 D2D's in a slot that already has mail in it,welcome to the world of part time workers.
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DB1100
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Re: D2D costing RM ?

Post by DB1100 »

IloveMYredTROLLEY! wrote:Prepping 7 D2D (without nesting them) took me ~75mins for ~160 delivery points a while back.

If they are not nested, as per spec, that is 7 items to filter (before we even talk about any letters for the next address) while stationary which will use more outdoor time.

Extra indoor and outdoor workload, more likely to create extra cut off and/or overtime.*


* Too many OPGs, at least at my depot, put all "pressure" overtime down as extended delivery. If your 318 states you should be leaving the depot at 1000, but you left at 1030, the first 30mins of any overtime claim should be against INDOOR WORK, not extended del! If you have 7 D2D one week taking up that extra indoor work time, state that on the overtime sheet.
Very true.
For we were soldiers once,and young