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Manager withholding overtime

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I did overtime in another office 3 weeks ago however my manager is refusing to pay me untill the other office can prove they have input it into the rcs so he doesn't have to pay out his budget, however the other office isn't sending the proof(a screen ahot of the rcs) is it fair that I have to wait for him to get his proof that it's been put on?

Do I have a case for grevance.
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Re: Manager withholding overtime

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Yes, overtime should be paid in the week following which it was done.
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Re: Manager withholding overtime

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Hmmmm isn't the manager right in this instance! :shock:

Overtime done elsewhere has to be given by the office it's done in(I guess that's the rcs thing),so it doesn't come out of the wrong office's budget.
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Re: Manager withholding overtime

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Surely that's down to management though to claim it back ?
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Re: Manager withholding overtime

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Yes, as long as you notified manager that you were going to go over and you have his agreement, and you have booked the overtime, it is then management responsibility to ensure you are paid your overtime in the time period laid down.
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Re: Manager withholding overtime

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vanman90 wrote:I did overtime in another office 3 weeks ago however my manager is refusing to pay me untill the other office can prove they have input it into the rcs so he doesn't have to pay out his budget, however the other office isn't sending the proof(a screen ahot of the rcs) is it fair that I have to wait for him to get his proof that it's been put on?

Do I have a case for grevance.

I do not think you have a case for grievance. The office you did the overtime in should should have payed you as they in put your pay No into the PSP system from that office ( if you signed the ot form in that office,your name and your full pay number 8 numbers ie 105 34534)
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Re: Manager withholding overtime

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oldrope wrote:
vanman90 wrote:I did overtime in another office 3 weeks ago however my manager is refusing to pay me untill the other office can prove they have input it into the rcs so he doesn't have to pay out his budget, however the other office isn't sending the proof(a screen ahot of the rcs) is it fair that I have to wait for him to get his proof that it's been put on?

Do I have a case for grevance.

I do not think you have a case for grievance. The office you did the overtime in should should have payed you as they in put your pay No into the PSP system from that office ( if you signed the ot form in that office,your name and your full pay number 8 numbers ie 105 34534)

No my manager had to pay and claim the money back the reason he is not paying is because the hours haven't been transferred yet, im not on the other offices psp.
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Re: Manager withholding overtime

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did you take and fill in a HR16 ( like the old overtime form)

Overtime from other offices only paid on production of a signed one of these at our place
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Re: Manager withholding overtime

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feduppostie wrote:did you take and fill in a HR16 ( like the old overtime form)

Overtime from other offices only paid on production of a signed one of these at our place

Yes!!!!!

However he is staying he won't pay untill he's satisfied that they have input into there rcs.

My argument is he should pay me and claim the money back later.
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Re: Manager withholding overtime

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To take a screenshot of the RCS takes seconds

besides if they haven't input into their RCS it should be apparent already - did your manager have a sunrise gap for that week??

If not then they haven't input it - if he did it's because they did and he hasn't paid it

Either way I think you need to put this in writing to his boss or you could ask moya :thumbup
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Re: Manager withholding overtime

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vanman90 wrote:
oldrope wrote:
vanman90 wrote:I did overtime in another office 3 weeks ago however my manager is refusing to pay me untill the other office can prove they have input it into the rcs so he doesn't have to pay out his budget, however the other office isn't sending the proof(a screen ahot of the rcs) is it fair that I have to wait for him to get his proof that it's been put on?

Do I have a case for grevance.

I do not think you have a case for grievance. The office you did the overtime in should should have payed you as they in put your pay No into the PSP system from that office ( if you signed the ot form in that office,your name and your full pay number 8 numbers ie 105 34534)

No my manager had to pay and claim the money back the reason he is not paying is because the hours haven't been transferred yet, im not on the other offices

Is it not all linked up ?
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Re: Manager withholding overtime

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No your only on the psp at your office and if your perform hours at another office the hours need to be transfers via the loaned and borrowed section of the rcs
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Re: Manager withholding overtime

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No my manager had to pay and claim the money back the reason he is not paying is because the hours haven't been transferred yet, im not on the other offices

Is it not all linked up ?[/quote]

how does he know they haven't been transferred if he hasn't seen the RCS?
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Re: Manager withholding overtime

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He doesn't that's why he's not paying it
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Re: Manager withholding overtime

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Must want his bonus more than his staff loyalty tell him to stick his over time up his big shinny ass.