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Union meeting on the street

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Union meeting on the street

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We had a Union meeting this morning out on the street the RM would not allow us to use the canteen or the building in that fact and it had to be done in our own time how petty of them? Anyway the long shot is that the rep asked members not to work their days off the week of the coming strike and don't do overtime. He was a bit annoyed that half the members would not come out to the meeting because they decided it was bagging up time. Can't win...
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Kings Norton wrote:We had a Union meeting this morning out on the street the RM would not allow us to use the canteen or the building in that fact and it had to be done in our own time how petty of them? Anyway the long shot is that the rep asked members not to work their days off the week of the coming strike and don't do overtime. He was a bit annoyed that half the members would not come out to the meeting because they decided it was bagging up time. Can't win...
rep should be careful there, he basically just asked them to work to rule without holding a ballot, could be seen as unofficial industrial action by the cwu
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zx135 wrote:
Kings Norton wrote:We had a Union meeting this morning out on the street the RM would not allow us to use the canteen or the building in that fact and it had to be done in our own time how petty of them? Anyway the long shot is that the rep asked members not to work their days off the week of the coming strike and don't do overtime. He was a bit annoyed that half the members would not come out to the meeting because they decided it was bagging up time. Can't win...
rep should be careful there, he basically just asked them to work to rule without holding a ballot, could be seen as unofficial industrial action by the cwu
Maybe, but that "the rep asked members not to work their days off the week of the coming strike" might have been because members had been asked by the DOM if they wanted to swap their scheduled day off for Monday the strike day. :shock: and that does happen. :shock:
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Lounge Lizard wrote:
zx135 wrote:
Kings Norton wrote:We had a Union meeting this morning out on the street the RM would not allow us to use the canteen or the building in that fact and it had to be done in our own time how petty of them? Anyway the long shot is that the rep asked members not to work their days off the week of the coming strike and don't do overtime. He was a bit annoyed that half the members would not come out to the meeting because they decided it was bagging up time. Can't win...
rep should be careful there, he basically just asked them to work to rule without holding a ballot, could be seen as unofficial industrial action by the cwu
Maybe, but that "the rep asked members not to work their days off the week of the coming strike" might have been because members had been asked by the DOM if they wanted to swap their scheduled day off for Monday the strike day. :shock: and that does happen. :shock:
but that action by the DOM would be allowed, cwu taking unofficial industrial action could lead to court case and possibly even making the strike unlawful
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no the rep is just asking them to do the job by the book and a rest day means a rest day so he's just asking them to take it
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He was asking us not telling us!!!
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demon wrote:no the rep is just asking them to do the job by the book and a rest day means a rest day so he's just asking them to take it
no actually asked not to work day off or over time, thats very very close to work to rule which you need another ballot for, if he said lets all follow the "do the job properly campaign, take breaks not come in early etc" thats ok, but what has been posted by the op is very very close to requesting a work to rule
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Kings Norton wrote:He was asking us not telling us!!!
still just by asking he is very close to asking you for a work to rule
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Agree Demon....The Rep was just reminding them of the CWU's long standing campaign to TRY and get Posties to simply work "Properly", :arrrghhh i.e Start on Time, Take Meal Breaks & Finish on Time. Nothing wrong there. It would be a Very effective gesture as we all know most Offices rely on Posties starting early, working for free and cutting corners where ever possible. :thumbdown
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Dorset Plodder wrote:Agree Demon....The Rep was just reminding them of the CWU's long standing campaign to TRY and get Posties to simply work "Properly", :arrrghhh i.e Start on Time, Take Meal Breaks & Finish on Time. Nothing wrong there. It would be a Very effective gesture as we all know most Offices rely on Posties starting early, working for free and cutting corners where ever possible. :thumbdown

thats not what the OP stated read the first post, he specifically stated the rep asked them not to work overtime or to work their day off, thats NOT allowed its basically a work to rule request, where are asking them to do the "work properly campaign is"
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ffs get over it lets all work to rule
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why are we getting stuck on semantics - its diverting the original intention of the topic. Neither side will agree, and we weren't there, so without a transcript its impossible to say with any certainty, unless you were present, what was and what wasn't said - perhaps we should move on.
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hans solo wrote:ffs get over it lets all work to rule
a work to rule is unofficial industrial action and if a union rep is advocating it, that means that RM can take that union to court over it, it could very possibly even get an injunction against the strike because of it
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See your point Z, I suppose you could argue that taking your rest day off and not working any Overtime is working "Properly"?

I'm surprised, with the increased workloads and larger duties, that anyone's got enough energy left to want to work their Rest Day! :shock: After all that's what it's meant to be for REST! :roll:
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zx135 wrote:
hans solo wrote:ffs get over it lets all work to rule
a work to rule is unofficial industrial action and if a union rep is advocating it, that means that RM can take that union to court over it, it could very possibly even get an injunction against the strike because of it
can i just ask how not doing overtime and not working your day off is deemed wrong?
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