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acting managers

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hans solo
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acting managers

Post by hans solo »

does every delivery office have them
glory hunting postpersons who would shop in or stab in back their colleagues at any opportunity to try and make themselves important.
now bearing in mind they are still opg,s and cwu members is there not a conflict of interest here
do we have to take instruction from these persons
where do we stand in a dispute with acting mgmt
rem they get a whopping big 30 quid exta a week to do linos work from them as to take pressure off them
wheres my acting postie to take pressure off me
where do we stand with this acting
clashcityrocker
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Re: acting managers

Post by clashcityrocker »

hans solo wrote: do we have to take instruction from these persons
Unless you want to face a charge of refusing a reasonable request - then yes.
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buster01
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Re: acting managers

Post by buster01 »

bunch of shysters the lot of em. think of it this way! YOU only have to follow a managers instructions. THEY have to polish the managers helmet and be his bitch.
Lincox
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Re: acting managers

Post by Lincox »

Even worse, most of them have been promoted from unit rep position. It,s although the unit rep position is a training ground for management. Our last two reps are now trainee managers. Whilst reps they managed to sign away several local actions without ever consulting the members. The later starts and Longs and Shorts both introduced and signed off by these two without any consultation with the members.
fishtank
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Re: acting managers

Post by fishtank »

Lincox wrote: It,s although the unit rep position is a training ground for management
I must be really s**t at the training for management thing judging by the length of time i've been a rep.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
buster01
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Re: acting managers

Post by buster01 »

well imo they are the lowest of the low. surely there should be some kind of union rule against reps taking up acting positions. maybe a time restriction or sending them to a different office, because these guys may know personal things about some of the staff
wookie
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Re: acting managers

Post by wookie »

They should not be allowed to be a an acting line manager at the office they were a postman. Full stop.
celerycelery
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Re: acting managers

Post by celerycelery »

Lincox wrote:Even worse, most of them have been promoted from unit rep position. It,s although the unit rep position is a training ground for management. Our last two reps are now trainee managers. Whilst reps they managed to sign away several local actions without ever consulting the members. The later starts and Longs and Shorts both introduced and signed off by these two without any consultation with the members.
Same at our place, last 2 are now acting managers. What a way for manager to get exactly what they want by sneakily helping the rep into management whilst they are still a rep.
whatamess!!
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Re: acting managers

Post by whatamess!! »

The extra money and coming off a delivery is to much for some,
some have higher principals.

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than live on my knees"
Stella102
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Re: acting managers

Post by Stella102 »

i for one dont want to be bending over for management, kick them out of the union
Lincox
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Re: acting managers

Post by Lincox »

Fish, there will be some they can coerce and some they will never. You are in the latter category and good on you for it.
north london driver
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Re: acting managers

Post by north london driver »

Stella102 wrote:i for one dont want to be bending over for management, kick them out of the union
for many years it has always been said that acting managers should be kicked out of the union.as for reps turning into guvnors they are worst than strike breakers and yes once again i will be told i cannot use the scab word but from day one of entering this job thats what there been called and by area reps and divisional london reps.nowdays acting managers or planning managers walk back into there office as delivery staff as though nothing has happened then something goes wrong and they go running to the union rep for help. let them rot!.
fishtank
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Re: acting managers

Post by fishtank »

Stella102 wrote:i for one dont want to be bending over for management, kick them out of the union
We have an unwritten rule in our office,if it happens while you're wearing the shirt and tie,speak to the CMA because they "represent" managers.
Manager,even "Acting" is not a CWU represented grade in Royal Mail.
If it happens while they wear our uniform we'll represent them.

Royal Mail also had an "unwritten" rule that Acting Managers don't Act in their parent office for obvious reasons,mostly being told to f**k off a lot.
I don't think that applies anymore unfortunately.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
clashcityrocker
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Re: acting managers

Post by clashcityrocker »

At the end of the day they are just people with mortgages to pay and kids to feed.
They might also have ambition and worry about things like "career advancement".

People's situations change over time as well.
They might have done years as a good rep but need to change.
I don't think they should be judged on that but on whether they are a good or bad manager.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
Dumpys Rusty Nuts
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Re: acting managers

Post by Dumpys Rusty Nuts »

At the end of the day they are just people with mortgages to pay and kids to feed.
They might also have ambition and worry about things like "career advancement".

People's situations change over time as well.
They might have done years as a good rep but need to change.
I don't think they should be judged on that but on whether they are a good or bad manager
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