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Indoor Flow

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Stormproof
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Indoor Flow

Post by Stormproof »

Can somebody explain 'Indoor Flow' in a simple easy to understand format?
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Re: Indoor Flow

Post by fishtank »

Redesigning your office layout and working practices to remove inefficiencies and unsafe acts.
That's the simple answer.

This is the complicated answer....
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Re: Indoor Flow

Post by woofwoof »

porters & sorters saves time on walking around the office clearing down mail leading to super sorters
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Re: Indoor Flow

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Well in our case it was out with the old and in with the new in a weekend with contractors in to do the moving. So Monday morning and the office has new backless frames with space behind for the little trolleys to collect the mail in trays for the porters - what we didn't have was porters. So it's new frames same old sorters, no porters and preppers collect the mail from either the front or the back depending on preference...............so to sum up - a total waste of time and money.
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Re: Indoor Flow

Post by centenaryman »

were supposed to me `doing this` sometime soon,,,,,keeps getting put back,,,frames on order they say

at the moment from 6am were lucky to have enough full timers to have more than 2 on the ips
this new idea,,,,is supposed to give us 6 on ips,,,2 on packets,,,and 2 porters

never being bright at maths at school there body count is alittle bit out

btw this is in an office of about 45 duties

but ive said similar to them in charge and WILL be the 1st to appolgise if im wrong when it finally comes in
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Re: Indoor Flow

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dvbuk55 wrote:Well in our case it was out with the old and in with the new in a weekend with contractors in to do the moving. So Monday morning and the office has new backless frames with space behind for the little trolleys to collect the mail in trays for the porters - what we didn't have was porters. So it's new frames same old sorters, no porters and preppers collect the mail from either the front or the back depending on preference...............so to sum up - a total waste of time and money.
we are the same now we have 2 sections in the office meant to be 2 porters each section
now its one pt porter per section which is done on pt overtime :shock: when they actually start
mgmt do not have them in at same time as sorters
sat no one to porter guy slept in
sweat pours off you all the time trying to keep all duties going during duties have actually seen people jogging round with trolly
we have reported it being too much for one man to cope with
still waiting on solutions
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Re: Indoor Flow

Post by DGP1 »

hans solo wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:Well in our case it was out with the old and in with the new in a weekend with contractors in to do the moving. So Monday morning and the office has new backless frames with space behind for the little trolleys to collect the mail in trays for the porters - what we didn't have was porters. So it's new frames same old sorters, no porters and preppers collect the mail from either the front or the back depending on preference...............so to sum up - a total waste of time and money.
we are the same now we have 2 sections in the office meant to be 2 porters each section
now its one pt porter per section which is done on pt overtime :shock: when they actually start
mgmt do not have them in at same time as sorters
sat no one to porter guy slept in
sweat pours off you all the time trying to keep all duties going during duties have actually seen people jogging round with trolly
we have reported it being too much for one man to cope with
still waiting on solutions
That seems about right, piss up in a brewery springs to mind.
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Re: Indoor Flow

Post by dvbuk55 »

DGP1 wrote:
hans solo wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:Well in our case it was out with the old and in with the new in a weekend with contractors in to do the moving. So Monday morning and the office has new backless frames with space behind for the little trolleys to collect the mail in trays for the porters - what we didn't have was porters. So it's new frames same old sorters, no porters and preppers collect the mail from either the front or the back depending on preference...............so to sum up - a total waste of time and money.
we are the same now we have 2 sections in the office meant to be 2 porters each section
now its one pt porter per section which is done on pt overtime :shock: when they actually start
mgmt do not have them in at same time as sorters
sat no one to porter guy slept in
sweat pours off you all the time trying to keep all duties going during duties have actually seen people jogging round with trolly
we have reported it being too much for one man to cope with
still waiting on solutions
That seems about right, piss up in a brewery springs to mind.
How about a cattle prod hans :Very Happy Our porters are lucky in that respect we don't have any - there wasn't enough bodies apparently so we just have sorters and preppers, the preppers get the mail for two walks - like they did before.
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Re: Indoor Flow

Post by hans solo »

how may duties do you prep start time 6am we are expected to prep 2 duties and our own to completion
3 full duties and they give us 40 min for each :left:
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Re: Indoor Flow

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Porters and sorters WTF?
It sounds like some sort of knightmare knobby upstairs,downstairs cheese fest. :roll:
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Re: Indoor Flow

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General Mannerheim wrote:Porters and sorters WTF?
It sounds like some sort of knightmare knobby upstairs,downstairs cheese fest. :roll:
Yes but you get to stick some pictures on the floor...
pics.jpg
That makes the whole thing worthwhile. :cuppa
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Re: Indoor Flow

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fishtank wrote:
General Mannerheim wrote:Porters and sorters WTF?
It sounds like some sort of knightmare knobby upstairs,downstairs cheese fest. :roll:
Yes but you get to stick some pictures on the floor...
pics.jpg
That makes the whole thing worthwhile. :cuppa
Wtf who has tiled floor ffs ours is concrete and who do you see about getting pictures on the floor - I fancy one of Kelly Brook nekkid - now there is a bonus incentive. Oh and one with my current address in case I forget where I live.
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Re: Indoor Flow

Post by Bernardson »

It was implemented in our DO but soon died a death as soon as a porter was absent no one was really willing to do it. Management got fed up with people pointing out portering was a demoralising task so everyone gave up.
:Boo hoo!
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Re: Indoor Flow

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Bernardson wrote:It was implemented in our DO but soon died a death as soon as a porter was absent no one was really willing to do it. Management got fed up with people pointing out portering was a demoralising task so everyone gave up.
:Boo hoo!
Well it was pointed out that it gave the impression that of the three disciplines a porter was sort of at the bottom of preferences - bit like the last kid to be chosen for the team so to speak.
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Re: Indoor Flow

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dvbuk55 wrote:
Bernardson wrote:It was implemented in our DO but soon died a death as soon as a porter was absent no one was really willing to do it. Management got fed up with people pointing out portering was a demoralising task so everyone gave up.
:Boo hoo!
Well it was pointed out that it gave the impression that of the three disciplines a porter was sort of at the bottom of preferences - bit like the last kid to be chosen for the team so to speak.
There is a serious point in that when justifying the increased delivery spans it was recognised that this would only be possible if the rest of your duty was made up of "light indoor work".
I hardly think dragging trays and trolleys around an office all morning constitutes "light indoor work".
I'll get straight on the phone to Bob Gibson...i'm sure they've already got a plan.... ;liar
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