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Forced O/T on non contracted day

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Swatty22
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Forced O/T on non contracted day

Post by Swatty22 »

Just a quick question.
I have got training in st john ambulance next weekend, my managers know how much it means to me.when I asked for the time off for training they replied that I had to work saturday, which I am not contacted for.i an only a monday to friday evening collections postie.i ask for overtime, but latley ive had none.only saturdays.every single week I work saturdays as overtime.my manger said that no one can cover the saturday shift so I cannot attend a very importawnt training course.can someone tell me what my rights are.
Talell
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Re: Forced O/T on non contracted day

Post by Talell »

Hello,

is your duty M-F?

is the Sat scheduled attendance?

as a side note, you are contracted to work the hours specified over 6 days (M-Sat) on any shift. There are no M-F contracts, there are no Tu-Sat contracts etc, only signed duties.
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Re: Forced O/T on non contracted day

Post by hantsman »

Talell wrote:Hello,

is your duty M-F?

is the Sat scheduled attendance?

as a side note, you are contracted to work the hours specified over 6 days (M-Sat) on any shift. There are no M-F contracts, there are no Tu-Sat contracts etc, only signed duties.
There are Mon til Fri contracts, one of which is a hybrid duty.
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Re: Forced O/T on non contracted day

Post by Swatty22 »

My duty is monay yo friday,collections as there are no evening collections on a saturday this is 17.5 total, which was my starting contact, they then offerd me 20.5 do work one day a week in the morning, after my daughter was born 19 months ago they decided that round was to be split.giving me 3 hours float...so they pick and choose the day to work extra, wich should technically be within my mon to fri contact.?
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Post by POSTMAN »

Confused,what is the actual day of the training?
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Post by Swatty22 »

Saturday is training.saturday is the day I'm not contacted to work.but they put me on prety much every saturday because they need people to cover, they dont ask. They just do it.
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Then there is no problem as overtime is voluntary,you have done your fair share,not doing it for one day is their problem.
I can't see the problem,or have I missed something.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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Re: Forced O/T on non contracted day

Post by Swatty22 »

That's what I thought.but scince "theres no one else that can cover it" then he said I cannot do my course. this has happend in the past and I'm fed up now.if I say anything they use it against me when I ask them for extra hours during weekdays.saying "you turn duwn overtime when we give it to you" makes me angry
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Re: Forced O/T on non contracted day

Post by POSTMAN »

Don't get angry,just don't go in,they can't force you to go in.
And if they are always short,the overtime wont dry up in a hurry.
And if you can't finish your duty and they won't pay then you don't finish.

See your rep asap,you're being bullied!
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Re: Forced O/T on non contracted day

Post by beanmuncha »

No one else to cover is HIS problem not yours,
if you have done all your contracted hours then you do not have to cover Saturday,
overtime is voluntary!!!
you let him know that your sorry but you will not be in on sat, he can't force you.
If he gets shitty about it see the rep
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Re: Forced O/T on non contracted day

Post by arnold cheshire »

im sick of hearing a dom say im stuck and cant get anyone to cover . set some people on then i dont care