We are losing it

[shelly]

Give us some news before we run out of time, Billy, Dave, you are too political, get back to us or you will lose any support. It will be a resounding no if you have to ballot us again.

[dave7634]

Give us some news before we run out of time, Billy, Dave, you are too political, get back to us or you will lose any support. It will be a resounding no if you have to ballot us again.

The agreement when they went into the talks was that neither side would talk to the postal staff nor the media. September 4th will see what they've come up with just bare with them. Fingers crossed they won't let us down.

"At a meeting today between Allan Leighton, Adam Crozier, Billy Hayes and Dave Ward, it was agreed:
- that both parties commit to talks on all the issues between them, hosted and facilitated by the TUC. Both sides commit to reach an agreement by 4 September.
- that, during this period the talks are on a confidential basis with no media or internal briefings unless explicitly jointly agreed. The CWU Executive and Royal Mail Board will receive regular updates on progress and would also be expected to undertake this confidentiality clause.
- that, for that period, Royal Mail will not serve notice or take any unilateral action to impose changes by executive action.
- that, for that period CWU will suspend industrial action.
- that, the signatories to this joint statement will review the process as and when necessary.

The statement is signed by Allan Leighton and Adam Crozier for Royal Mail and Billy Hayes, General Secretary and Dave Ward Deputy General Secretary for CWU."

[POSTMAN]

There's a meeting of PEC, Div reps, Regional secs ect today.

Ok my rep had a meeting with some top London Div reps regarding our south London ballot malarkey yesterday.
It was noted that talks at National level were going nowhere and Crozier has walked out 3 times,Leighton wants to do a deal.

But i also i got a pm from a good source saying "Rumour mill says 2 year deal based on savings!!!"

[madelin4]

Not sounding good then

[TrueBlueTerrier]

But i also i got a pm from a good source saying "Rumour mill says 2 year deal based on savings!!!"

That will be a no from me and IMO every sensible postie. Every time they give us an offer on savings, we have no input, we work our arses off, we are not told what the savings are until they are forced in, and then to top it when we get close the move the goalposts.

[pistol]

remaining optimistic...ish! If crozier walks again..send tommo in his stead..good or bad at least we would know we(the cwu) had a good go..as it is the talks blackout is just giving the rumour mongers fuel....Its "squeaky bum time" people...

[L Tommo]

Pistol Mate... I wouldnt last 10 mins in the meeting with them backsliding scumbags of puke.... I wouldnt have any of there bollox... I listen to anyones opinion.. But when they patronise and lie and bullshite.. I switch in to a nasty bastard and it would be a free for all.... Shame but i just cant stand bollox and lies... And if Billy and Dave was not doing the job of the mass union then i would feck them off as well.. I know we should never air our differences out in the open.. The Union should always stick as one... But as we have seen before with our old glorious leaders in the CWU they do like a nice little job on the Labour back benches, and work there way up..... I dont think i need to say the name of the slag but he has slitty eyes that no man woman or child should trust.... Lets hope DAVE and BILLY can buck the trend and get something out of these Cozy media black out meetings????

I wonder who asked fro the Blackout???? And who agreed to stopping IA while talks where on going??? I think as we all.. voted for IA then it should of been US who voted to stop it while talks where on goin.... We have shown enough grace and goodwill to RM as the IA has gone on... The Public has been on average.. GOOD and backed us... The media... Well dont start me off there... MURDEROCH.. and his good pal... BIG AL.. have many dirty fingers in many of the same pies.... SO we aint gonna get a good word said from them... But i think the Public again see this and i hope see the propaganda within...

ITS TIME TO STEP UP THE PACE AND PRESSURE ON THEM TWO FECKWITS.... The PM should be rattled now and lets start a knock on effect around Unions of this country... And as IWW showed.. Other places as well.. (Sweden)

There is ways around flying picketing and secondry picketing but we have to be very careful not to break the laws... Lets be smart and lets hurt RM and show them up for what they really are... BULLYS... LIERS... DISTRUCTIVE... AND UNTRUSTWORTHY... The public know this... Lets ram it home...


OUT


KEEP OUR POWDER DRY BUT KEEP THE EMEMY IN OUR SITES...

[dave7634]

Not sounding good then

Whilst collecting from a Post Office yesterday (yeah I know, there are some left) she asked me about the talks and how they were going. Upon answering her request I asked to why she wanted to know. She told me that their bosses were sending them vast amounts of cash; more than they normally do lets put it that way, to the PO's. They don't usually see amounts like this until Christmas she was saying. I hope I'm not reading too much into this

[pistol]

Pistol Mate... I wouldnt last 10 mins in the meeting with them backsliding scumbags of puke.... I wouldnt have any of there bollox... I listen to anyones opinion.. But when they patronise and lie and bullshite.. I switch in to a nasty bastard and it would be a free for all.... Shame but i just cant stand bollox and lies... And if Billy and Dave was not doing the job of the mass union then i would feck them off as well.. I know we should never air our differences out in the open.. The Union should always stick as one... But as we have seen before with our old glorious leaders in the CWU they do like a nice little job on the Labour back benches, and work there way up..... I dont think i need to say the name of the slag but he has slitty eyes that no man woman or child should trust.... Lets hope DAVE and BILLY can buck the trend and get something out of these Cozy media black out meetings????

I wonder who asked fro the Blackout???? And who agreed to stopping IA while talks where on going??? I think as we all.. voted for IA then it should of been US who voted to stop it while talks where on goin.... We have shown enough grace and goodwill to RM as the IA has gone on... The Public has been on average.. GOOD and backed us... The media... Well dont start me off there... MURDEROCH.. and his good pal... BIG AL.. have many dirty fingers in many of the same pies.... SO we aint gonna get a good word said from them... But i think the Public again see this and i hope see the propaganda within...

ITS TIME TO STEP UP THE PACE AND PRESSURE ON THEM TWO FECKWITS.... The PM should be rattled now and lets start a knock on effect around Unions of this country... And as IWW showed.. Other places as well.. (Sweden)

There is ways around flying picketing and secondry picketing but we have to be very careful not to break the laws... Lets be smart and lets hurt RM and show them up for what they really are... BULLYS... LIERS... DISTRUCTIVE... AND UNTRUSTWORTHY... The public know this... Lets ram it home...
Like my old dad used to say...keep your friends close...and your enemies closer..!

OUT


KEEP OUR POWDER DRY BUT KEEP THE EMEMY IN OUR SITES...

[billypants]

But i also i got a pm from a good source saying "Rumour mill says 2 year deal based on savings!!!"

any deal that has "only if" within it, is no bloody use to us, we've been conned like that too many times before