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PHG "cover"...Enhanced Pay Rate?

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Thunderthighs
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PHG "cover"...Enhanced Pay Rate?

Post by Thunderthighs »

Back on lite duties, so I'll be doing the afternon PHG cover for a few months.

I thought that this involved an Enhanced Pay Rate, and was told that it's around £16 per week or so - probably Pro Rata.

Anyway, is this True/Fact? Can I ask about it or will I look a total Schmuck if I do?

To be honest, just glad to be back, and not being chased/attacked by hairy bitches...and I don't mean the local LAYDEEEEEZZZZZ!!!!

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Post by Stormproof »

Never heard of an enhanced rate for PHG cover........the PHG probably only gets the extra money under grandfather rights so you would'nt be entitled to anything. Technically Callers duty is a PHG job but I never received anything extra for working in there for 3 years, infact I took a paycut because I lost half my ESA.
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Post by krussel »

I ve asked this in the past when ive been offered inquiry counter work and been told NO you dont get it anymore :sad:
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Post by baldrick »

No you won't get an enhanced PHG rate for covering what was previously defined as a PHG duty.
After the Way Forward Agreement 2000, only permanent and substantive employees graded PHG on 31 January 2000,
continued to receive the PHG supplement on a personal reserved rights basis.
Sick Postie
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Re: PHG "cover"...Enhanced Pay Rate?

Post by Sick Postie »

I think when you're on "light duties" you are not allowed any overtime either.
Thunderthighs
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Post by Thunderthighs »

Thanks all, just a thought, it was.
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Post by Spartacus »

Thought PHGs got supervision allowance when there's no managers about.
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Re: PHG "cover"...Enhanced Pay Rate?

Post by Fishyfingers »

Spartacus wrote:Thought PHGs got supervision allowance when there's no managers about.

I cover PHG day off and had leadership allowance when the Manager has been off.
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Post by TeeferTiger »

You can get leadership allowance if you're a supervisory PHG (like I do every now and again in the little rural offices) but there's nowt for just working the callers office etc.

In fact, you should be paying them cos it's so brilliant and much easier than being outside... :crazy: My ADOM asked ATOS once when I would be fit to do full duties as I was "currently indoors doing less work". Less work than who?! Even with only one arm and leg working properly, I was still doing more work than the 2 guys that were normally in the bloody office! Cheeky git.
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Thunderthighs
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Post by Thunderthighs »

So, another point of view.. Leadership Allowance is what exactly?

How do I go about arranging/asking/checking it at work...
without looking greedy, scummy, grabbing, lol !!!

As they say in the adverts, "Every little helps."
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Post by dvbuk55 »

Thunderthighs wrote:So, another point of view.. Leadership Allowance is what exactly?

How do I go about arranging/asking/checking it at work...
without looking greedy, scummy, grabbing, lol !!!

As they say in the adverts, "Every little helps."
Leadership allowance is paid when there is no Manager present and, I think, you have to be supervising 5 or more staff - the manager not being present is not a physical thing but when there is no manager on a permanent basis - for example on a Saturday when a Manager is supposed to be there but buggers off early doesn't count.
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Post by smokerjim »

dvbuk55 wrote:
Thunderthighs wrote:So, another point of view.. Leadership Allowance is what exactly?

How do I go about arranging/asking/checking it at work...
without looking greedy, scummy, grabbing, lol !!!

As they say in the adverts, "Every little helps."
Leadership allowance is paid when there is no Manager present and, I think, you have to be supervising 5 or more staff - the manager not being present is not a physical thing but when there is no manager on a permanent basis - for example on a Saturday when a Manager is supposed to be there but buggers off early doesn't count.
Surely if that happens, and no manager is present for any length of time the office MUST be closed, mustn't it? After all, if a manager ( or suitably qualified and renumerated PHG or OPG ) is not present and responsible for the office, it should be closed on H&S grounds alone, I believe.
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Thunderthighs
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Re: PHG "cover"...Enhanced Pay Rate?

Post by Thunderthighs »

I'll be there 5 hrs, mostly alone, answering callers, sorting out eve collections, phone answering, segging mail, Specials, 6 staff in/out, van mail delivery,
dealing with whatever is thrown at me.
Basically, running the phg/sorting office, and most of the "Known World" as far as I can see it.
No managers will be present at any time until be close...

Seems a lot of Responsibility/Accountability for one lickle, ickle person
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Re: PHG "cover"...Enhanced Pay Rate?

Post by dvbuk55 »

smokerjim wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:
Thunderthighs wrote:So, another point of view.. Leadership Allowance is what exactly?

How do I go about arranging/asking/checking it at work...
without looking greedy, scummy, grabbing, lol !!!

As they say in the adverts, "Every little helps."
Leadership allowance is paid when there is no Manager present and, I think, you have to be supervising 5 or more staff - the manager not being present is not a physical thing but when there is no manager on a permanent basis - for example on a Saturday when a Manager is supposed to be there but buggers off early doesn't count.
Surely if that happens, and no manager is present for any length of time the office MUST be closed, mustn't it? After all, if a manager ( or suitably qualified and renumerated PHG or OPG ) is not present and responsible for the office, it should be closed on H&S grounds alone, I believe.
In short No.
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Re: PHG "cover"...Enhanced Pay Rate?

Post by TeeferTiger »

The 2 offices I supervise and get the leadership for have a DOM but classed as a "cluster DOM" because they look after a few small offices. The PHG does all the daily reports, rotas, forecasts (to an extent-just on a weekly basis, no annual stuff!), CPR, paymaster, RCS etc. etc. etc...

If you're just looking after the callers office and the attached RLE work, I don't think you'll get the allowance.
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