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[ulster postie]

JUST WONDERING WHENEVER THIS DISPUTE IS SETTLED WILL WE RECEIVE OUR PAYRISE BACKDATED TO 1ST APRIL , MIGHT BE WORTH A FAIR BIT IF THIS RUMBLES ON

[johnnyp]

JUST WONDERING WHENEVER THIS DISPUTE IS SETTLED WILL WE RECEIVE OUR PAYRISE BACKDATED TO 1ST APRIL , MIGHT BE WORTH A FAIR BIT IF THIS RUMBLES ON

We should do friend,thats always been the case in the past,i dont see it being any different this time,and WE ARE OWED IT.

[South East Postie]

people that have gone into work during the dispute should not a payrise, very least they should not get it backdated. why should we fight to get their wages increased.

[Carnoustie]

Sorry to disagree there, but it hasn't always been the case in the past that the final negotiated settlement has been fully back-dated to the proper pay settlement date. Those who've been in the business long enough to remember when our pay year ran from October-September can recall several instances of negotations dragging on for months (with RM frequently stating 'there is no more money', just like they are now) and the deal that we finally got to vote on only being backdated to 1st December

So we would start out turning down an offer of say 2.4%, only for negotiations to drag on and on, then settle for say 2.7% increase backdated to 1st December. We would in effect be shafted because a 2.4% increase on pay over each and every one of twelve months produces more additional pay than a slightly higher percentage that is only applied over 10 months I never ever understood how that was allowed to happen, but it did on more than one occasion !

In hindsight, RM put one over on our negotiators a few years back, when they secured agreement to an 18-month deal that effectively moved the pay year to a April-March span. Why did they want us to do that ? To bring the pay year into synch with the financial year ? Yes, partly. But they also knew that if you get deadlocked in your pay negotiations, and two months have passed, it's a lot less of a bargaining tool for the CWU to be threatening to ballot for strike action in June - when volumes are lower - than threatening to ballot in early December when Christmas is fast approaching !!! Who signed us up for that deal ? Alan Johnson, if memory serves me right ....

[johnnyp]

Sorry to disagree there, but it hasn't always been the case in the past that the final negotiated settlement has been fully back-dated to the proper pay settlement date. Those who've been in the business long enough to remember when our pay year ran from October-September can recall several instances of negotations dragging on for months (with RM frequently stating 'there is no more money', just like they are now) and the deal that we finally got to vote on only being backdated to 1st December

So we would start out turning down an offer of say 2.4%, only for negotiations to drag on and on, then settle for say 2.7% increase backdated to 1st December. We would in effect be shafted because a 2.4% increase on pay over each and every one of twelve months produces more additional pay than a slightly higher percentage that is only applied over 10 months I never ever understood how that was allowed to happen, but it did on more than one occasion !

In hindsight, RM put one over on our negotiators a few years back, when they secured agreement to an 18-month deal that effectively moved the pay year to a April-March span. Why did they want us to do that ? To bring the pay year into synch with the financial year ? Yes, partly. But they also knew that if you get deadlocked in your pay negotiations, and two months have passed, it's a lot less of a bargaining tool for the CWU to be threatening to ballot for strike action in June - when volumes are lower - than threatening to ballot in early December when Christmas is fast approaching !!! Who signed us up for that deal ? Alan Johnson, if memory serves me right ....

Nice one hertfordshirehog youve a much better memory then me friend i do believe Dave and the boys wont let R/M pull any strokes this time,and will fight for everything thats owed to us