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wolfie citizen smith
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Post by wolfie citizen smith »

So what is a reasonabe amount of delivery points to realisticely take a delivery to 3hrs 30mins.
This is taking into account Wednesdays, Thursdays and Fridays, also taking into account the 20% door to door lay in per day, preping of the walk, redirections and kill offs, the 11kg bag weight unless you have flats then its 6kg. The hour and 35 mins sorting the 40 min meal realif and the 20 min cycle ride there and the 20 min cycle ride back.
I believe all is unachievable.

06.20 start time
06.20 - 06.45 clear in and :cuppa
06.45 - 08.05 sorting :sad: (tuesday wtll so sorting upto 07.45)
08.05 - 08.45 meal relief :Very Happy

the rest of this is to take into account the rest of our daily work, however this is not to time, its just an exercise to state times given for prep.

08.45 - 09.00 missorts
09.00 - 09.20 cycle to delivery
09.20 - 12.50 3hrs 30mins delivery which includes waiting aronud our deliveries for the bag meets and customers opening there doors to either sign for or just recieve a packet.
12.50 - 13.10 return cycle to delivery office

This then leaves 1hrs 33mins prep. Within that time we have to clear in sorted mail, fold in D2Ds 20%, bag and sticker all redirections, bag all items in need of repair, que for Priority Items, prepair delivery bags for delivery 11kg max per bag not unless you have the misfortune to have flats then its 6kgs, do daily safety check on bike and toliet refresments.
However RM believe its reasonable to have an average of 640 delivery points to the RM2000 and if an average frame has 3 letters per fillet thats 640 x 3=1920 letters x that by 10 items per minute = 600 items an hour = 3hours 12mins plus I haven't even mentioned the packet bag from the DBF, add that to the kill offs and redirections every body should be leaving 2 bags of mail per day and thats modernisation :d'oh!
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laudrup11
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Re: What is reasonable...

Post by laudrup11 »

If you sorted at 10 items per minute where I come from mate you would be on conduct.
RM2000 one minute test - 25 items per minute.
So over say an hour you wont hit near 25 but they would expect 17, 18 whatever.
wolfie citizen smith
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Re: What is reasonable...

Post by wolfie citizen smith »

sorry my comrade friend but i would put a grievance in and a H1 form for bullying against your DOM. Why i say this is when the exercise program went out in 1997 with RM and Health and Safety the prep rate for the RM2000 equated to 12 items per minute, however that was for a 20 minute period, now bring fatigue (sorry about spelling) into play and then say 10 items per minute your DOM is treating you like a slave brother. :so there
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Re: What is reasonable...

Post by Geezer »

Have a look at this..............

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wolfie citizen smith
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Re: What is reasonable...

Post by wolfie citizen smith »

no worries wardog....

have a read of this document if you can find it as it will reveal all...


Summary of Ergonomics Research During Development of the RM2000 Delivery Preparation Fitting
Ergonomics and Safety Group
March 1997
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OnAFlyer
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Re: What is reasonable...

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06.20 - 06.45 clear in and
06.45 - 07.05 sorting
wtf, 20 mins? Our sorting is 6-7.30 at least, usually 6-8.
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Re: What is reasonable...

Post by wolfie citizen smith »

OnAFlyer wrote:
06.20 - 06.45 clear in and
06.45 - 07.05 sorting
wtf, 20 mins? Our sorting is 6-7.30 at least, usually 6-8.[/quot


:oops: ment to be 06.45 till 08.05 1hr 20 mins thank you and have amended original thread :Very Happy
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