What's the point?

[Duesouth]

Striking, and being on the picket line to support this dispute is all great.

But what's the point of all of this? Only for the next day to try and work your day off, coming in an hour or two early, going over your delivery just to clear the office. These short term gains are not going to do any good for any one. It's just going to be a vicious circle that royal mail are willing to play out till the end of xmas, then they will get even nastier with the threat of more job cuts, executive action and no redundancy terms.

If people need the overtime that's all fair and well, but to have a massive impact of these strikes we all need to stick together and make an impact by doing as little as possible on overtime.

We all need to make this work and if we don't its game over.

[Shinsplints88]

The Union rep in our office organises the morning overtime

[POSTPERSON50]

Striking, and being on the picket line to support this dispute is all great.

But what's the point of all of this? Only for the next day to try and work your day off, coming in an hour or two early, going over your delivery just to clear the office. These short term gains are not going to do any good for any one. It's just going to be a vicious circle that royal mail are willing to play out till the end of xmas, then they will get even nastier with the threat of more job cuts, executive action and no redundancy terms.

If people need the overtime that's all fair and well, but to have a massive impact of these strikes we all need to stick together and make an impact by doing as little as possible on overtime.

We all need to make this work and if we don't its game over.

Agree, the effect has to be worth the sacrifice.

We won't clear our current backlog by Tuesday, the real carnage will begin on Friday morning. Game changer.

[Halfhappy]

Striking, and being on the picket line to support this dispute is all great.

But what's the point of all of this? Only for the next day to try and work your day off, coming in an hour or two early, going over your delivery just to clear the office. These short term gains are not going to do any good for any one. It's just going to be a vicious circle that royal mail are willing to play out till the end of xmas, then they will get even nastier with the threat of more job cuts, executive action and no redundancy terms.

If people need the overtime that's all fair and well, but to have a massive impact of these strikes we all need to stick together and make an impact by doing as little as possible on overtime.

We all need to make this work and if we don't its game over.

The point is these strikes are causing long-term disruption. It doesn't matter if its cleared in a day, which I don't believe it is. I'd point you to the thread about other couriers, and the impact it may be having, its worth browsing through. No company can afford to have the threat of long term disruption hanging over it. This applies pressure on it from customers, and ultimately they have to find a resolution. This obsession that Christmas is the only chance, is nonsense.

[FilthyBloke]

Striking, and being on the picket line to support this dispute is all great.

But what's the point of all of this? Only for the next day to try and work your day off, coming in an hour or two early, going over your delivery just to clear the office. These short term gains are not going to do any good for any one. It's just going to be a vicious circle that royal mail are willing to play out till the end of xmas, then they will get even nastier with the threat of more job cuts, executive action and no redundancy terms.

If people need the overtime that's all fair and well, but to have a massive impact of these strikes we all need to stick together and make an impact by doing as little as possible on overtime.

We all need to make this work and if we don't its game over.

The point is these strikes are causing long-term disruption. It doesn't matter if its cleared in a day, which I don't believe it is. I'd point you to the thread about other couriers, and the impact it may be having, its worth browsing through. No company can afford to have the threat of long term disruption hanging over it. This applies pressure on it from customers, and ultimately they have to find a resolution. This obsession that Christmas is the only chance, is nonsense.

It’s not nonsense. Christmas is the busiest time by far. Nobody is allowed annual leave (very few anyway) and businesses like Etsy and eBay sell a lot more.
The backlogs and disruption over Christmas will be far more than in January when the mail drops off the cliff again.
My fear is that if we still have not got a deal by the new year come January and February ST will be able to show that we don’t need as many staff as it’s being cleared fairly easily on a skeleton workforce.

[Duesouth]

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This obsession that Christmas is the only chance, is nonsense.
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I think there will be a chance we'll be on strike after the new year. Definitely not once xmas is over and done with that's it.

I do think that the customers at this time of year need us more than ever, so we need support from all angles, customers and fellow colleagues to make an even bigger voice to the CEO that thinks nothing of the company or the workers long term.

[Wullie10]

That's my point. What's the point ? Walked in to town today and saw Royal Mail vans everywhere. Then the wife said I thought you were on strike because you didn't want to work Sundays . No answer really. These strikes will drag on for ever because people can't afford them that's why they working Sundays and day off and Union have no clear strategies.

[Halfhappy]

Striking, and being on the picket line to support this dispute is all great.

But what's the point of all of this? Only for the next day to try and work your day off, coming in an hour or two early, going over your delivery just to clear the office. These short term gains are not going to do any good for any one. It's just going to be a vicious circle that royal mail are willing to play out till the end of xmas, then they will get even nastier with the threat of more job cuts, executive action and no redundancy terms.

If people need the overtime that's all fair and well, but to have a massive impact of these strikes we all need to stick together and make an impact by doing as little as possible on overtime.

We all need to make this work and if we don't its game over.

The point is these strikes are causing long-term disruption. It doesn't matter if its cleared in a day, which I don't believe it is. I'd point you to the thread about other couriers, and the impact it may be having, its worth browsing through. No company can afford to have the threat of long term disruption hanging over it. This applies pressure on it from customers, and ultimately they have to find a resolution. This obsession that Christmas is the only chance, is nonsense.

It’s not nonsense. Christmas is the busiest time by far. Nobody is allowed annual leave (very few anyway) and businesses like Etsy and eBay sell a lot more.
The backlogs and disruption over Christmas will be far more than in January when the mail drops off the cliff again.
My fear is that if we still have not got a deal by the new year come January and February ST will be able to show that we don’t need as many staff as it’s being cleared fairly easily on a skeleton workforce.

As I said it's not about clearing the work, it's about the disruption and uncertainty it causes. What you're suggesting is that the only time RM need staff is at Christmas, the rest of the year we do nothing. That is simply false. I have said, in previous posts that got drowned out with bickering over you, that I recognise Christmas is the busiest time. I don't deny that.

[heraldmoth]

This obsession that Christmas is the only chance, is nonsense.
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I think there will be a chance we'll be on strike after the new year. Definitely not once xmas is over and done with that's it.

I do think that the customers at this time of year need us more than ever, so we need support from all angles, customers and fellow colleagues to make an even bigger voice to the CEO that thinks nothing of the company or the workers long term.
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I think most people will tell you if we’re striking after Xmas they will be in work and actively looking for other employment, anyone who thinks otherwise either lives in london or they’re delusional

[Clappedoutpostie]

That's my point. What's the point ? Walked in to town today and saw Royal Mail vans everywhere. Then the wife said I thought you were on strike because you didn't want to work Sundays . No answer really. These strikes will drag on for ever because people can't afford them that's why they working Sundays and day off and Union have no clear strategies.

We are not on strike because we don’t want to work Sunday. We want Sundays to be on a voluntary basis like now and for the Sunday premium not cut. Sundays suit some people.

See what happens in the next 2 days, it will be clear the strikes are working.

[Kenfandango]

Having been scheduled to work today I can tell you the strikes have worked, and it's absolute carnage

[Halfhappy]

Having been scheduled to work today I can tell you the strikes have worked, and it's absolute carnage

There you go. Can everyone relax a little bit now? It will do you good, we'll all be a little better for it.

[FilthyBloke]

Striking, and being on the picket line to support this dispute is all great.

But what's the point of all of this? Only for the next day to try and work your day off, coming in an hour or two early, going over your delivery just to clear the office. These short term gains are not going to do any good for any one. It's just going to be a vicious circle that royal mail are willing to play out till the end of xmas, then they will get even nastier with the threat of more job cuts, executive action and no redundancy terms.

If people need the overtime that's all fair and well, but to have a massive impact of these strikes we all need to stick together and make an impact by doing as little as possible on overtime.

We all need to make this work and if we don't its game over.

The point is these strikes are causing long-term disruption. It doesn't matter if its cleared in a day, which I don't believe it is. I'd point you to the thread about other couriers, and the impact it may be having, its worth browsing through. No company can afford to have the threat of long term disruption hanging over it. This applies pressure on it from customers, and ultimately they have to find a resolution. This obsession that Christmas is the only chance, is nonsense.

It’s not nonsense. Christmas is the busiest time by far. Nobody is allowed annual leave (very few anyway) and businesses like Etsy and eBay sell a lot more.
The backlogs and disruption over Christmas will be far more than in January when the mail drops off the cliff again.
My fear is that if we still have not got a deal by the new year come January and February ST will be able to show that we don’t need as many staff as it’s being cleared fairly easily on a skeleton workforce.

As I said it's not about clearing the work, it's about the disruption and uncertainty it causes. What you're suggesting is that the only time RM need staff is at Christmas, the rest of the year we do nothing. That is simply false. I have said, in previous posts that got drowned out with bickering over you, that I recognise Christmas is the busiest time. I don't deny that.

We need staff all year round but businesses and people in general will be not as bothered if something is delayed by a day or two in January or February.
Disruption will be at a minimal. Unless it’s a week long strike or similar.
Odd days here and there in January will be useless.

[Halfhappy]

Striking, and being on the picket line to support this dispute is all great.

But what's the point of all of this? Only for the next day to try and work your day off, coming in an hour or two early, going over your delivery just to clear the office. These short term gains are not going to do any good for any one. It's just going to be a vicious circle that royal mail are willing to play out till the end of xmas, then they will get even nastier with the threat of more job cuts, executive action and no redundancy terms.

If people need the overtime that's all fair and well, but to have a massive impact of these strikes we all need to stick together and make an impact by doing as little as possible on overtime.

We all need to make this work and if we don't its game over.

The point is these strikes are causing long-term disruption. It doesn't matter if its cleared in a day, which I don't believe it is. I'd point you to the thread about other couriers, and the impact it may be having, its worth browsing through. No company can afford to have the threat of long term disruption hanging over it. This applies pressure on it from customers, and ultimately they have to find a resolution. This obsession that Christmas is the only chance, is nonsense.

It’s not nonsense. Christmas is the busiest time by far. Nobody is allowed annual leave (very few anyway) and businesses like Etsy and eBay sell a lot more.
The backlogs and disruption over Christmas will be far more than in January when the mail drops off the cliff again.
My fear is that if we still have not got a deal by the new year come January and February ST will be able to show that we don’t need as many staff as it’s being cleared fairly easily on a skeleton workforce.

As I said it's not about clearing the work, it's about the disruption and uncertainty it causes. What you're suggesting is that the only time RM need staff is at Christmas, the rest of the year we do nothing. That is simply false. I have said, in previous posts that got drowned out with bickering over you, that I recognise Christmas is the busiest time. I don't deny that.

We need staff all year round but businesses and people in general will be not as bothered if something is delayed by a day or two in January or February.
Disruption will be at a minimal. Unless it’s a week long strike or similar.
Odd days here and there in January will be useless.

I think you're confused as to who Royal Mail's customers are, it's not people in general. The public is Royal Mail's customer's customer.

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