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claystones
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saturday deliveries

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Saturday letter deliveries to be scrapped according to the Daily Mail i think that was always going to happen i think the union saw that coming a lot of workers would be happy with that
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Re: saturday deliveries

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claystones wrote:
21 Jul 2022, 10:43
Saturday letter deliveries to be scrapped according to the Daily Mail i think that was always going to happen i think the union saw that coming a lot of workers would be happy with that
You'll likely be out longer Mon-Fri, either that or you drop down to a PT contract
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Re: saturday deliveries

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SpacePhoenix wrote:
21 Jul 2022, 10:57
claystones wrote:
21 Jul 2022, 10:43
Saturday letter deliveries to be scrapped according to the Daily Mail i think that was always going to happen i think the union saw that coming a lot of workers would be happy with that
You'll likely be out longer Mon-Fri, either that or you drop down to a PT contract

FFS SP, no we wont, there will be some form of delivery on a Saturday if they are intent on doing Sundays, stop scaremonger delivery people when you know xxxx all about it.
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Re: saturday deliveries

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2yearpostie wrote:
21 Jul 2022, 11:02
SpacePhoenix wrote:
21 Jul 2022, 10:57
claystones wrote:
21 Jul 2022, 10:43
Saturday letter deliveries to be scrapped according to the Daily Mail i think that was always going to happen i think the union saw that coming a lot of workers would be happy with that
You'll likely be out longer Mon-Fri, either that or you drop down to a PT contract

FFS SP, no we wont, there will be some form of delivery on a Saturday if they are intent on doing Sundays, stop scaremonger delivery people when you know xxxx all about it.
A very sizeable chunk of what we send out to DOs as small packets is technically classed as large letters, so most of that won't get delivered. You've got the parcel hubs coming into existence so unless a DO is a parcel hub then they'll loose all the large normal and all the Tracked (at least the large Tracked). So how does that leave enough work for everyone on a Saturday? :cuppa
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Re: saturday deliveries

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SpacePhoenix wrote:
21 Jul 2022, 11:13
2yearpostie wrote:
21 Jul 2022, 11:02
SpacePhoenix wrote:
21 Jul 2022, 10:57
claystones wrote:
21 Jul 2022, 10:43
Saturday letter deliveries to be scrapped according to the Daily Mail i think that was always going to happen i think the union saw that coming a lot of workers would be happy with that
You'll likely be out longer Mon-Fri, either that or you drop down to a PT contract

FFS SP, no we wont, there will be some form of delivery on a Saturday if they are intent on doing Sundays, stop scaremonger delivery people when you know xxxx all about it.
A very sizeable chunk of what we send out to DOs as small packets is technically classed as large letters, so most of that won't get delivered. You've got the parcel hubs coming into existence so unless a DO is a parcel hub then they'll loose all the large normal and all the Tracked (at least the large Tracked). So how does that leave enough work for everyone on a Saturday? :cuppa
Rural routes and buisnesses arent losing size 3 and 4 in any offices so there will be those to do, anything with a tracked or special label will need doing so D.O staff will be put on a rota to complete those duties (like now)
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Re: saturday deliveries

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2yearpostie wrote:
21 Jul 2022, 11:47
SpacePhoenix wrote:
21 Jul 2022, 11:13
2yearpostie wrote:
21 Jul 2022, 11:02
SpacePhoenix wrote:
21 Jul 2022, 10:57
claystones wrote:
21 Jul 2022, 10:43
Saturday letter deliveries to be scrapped according to the Daily Mail i think that was always going to happen i think the union saw that coming a lot of workers would be happy with that
You'll likely be out longer Mon-Fri, either that or you drop down to a PT contract

FFS SP, no we wont, there will be some form of delivery on a Saturday if they are intent on doing Sundays, stop scaremonger delivery people when you know xxxx all about it.
A very sizeable chunk of what we send out to DOs as small packets is technically classed as large letters, so most of that won't get delivered. You've got the parcel hubs coming into existence so unless a DO is a parcel hub then they'll loose all the large normal and all the Tracked (at least the large Tracked). So how does that leave enough work for everyone on a Saturday? :cuppa
Rural routes and buisnesses arent losing size 3 and 4 in any offices so there will be those to do, anything with a tracked or special label will need doing so D.O staff will be put on a rota to complete those duties (like now)
All the Tracked and the size 3 and 4 are going to be direct selections to the parcel hubs. They'll arrive at the MC, be wheeled off the artic and over to the 600s doing the runs to the parcel hubs
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Re: saturday deliveries

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SpacePhoenix wrote:
21 Jul 2022, 11:56
2yearpostie wrote:
21 Jul 2022, 11:47
SpacePhoenix wrote:
21 Jul 2022, 11:13
2yearpostie wrote:
21 Jul 2022, 11:02
SpacePhoenix wrote:
21 Jul 2022, 10:57
claystones wrote:
21 Jul 2022, 10:43
Saturday letter deliveries to be scrapped according to the Daily Mail i think that was always going to happen i think the union saw that coming a lot of workers would be happy with that
You'll likely be out longer Mon-Fri, either that or you drop down to a PT contract

FFS SP, no we wont, there will be some form of delivery on a Saturday if they are intent on doing Sundays, stop scaremonger delivery people when you know xxxx all about it.
A very sizeable chunk of what we send out to DOs as small packets is technically classed as large letters, so most of that won't get delivered. You've got the parcel hubs coming into existence so unless a DO is a parcel hub then they'll loose all the large normal and all the Tracked (at least the large Tracked). So how does that leave enough work for everyone on a Saturday? :cuppa
Rural routes and buisnesses arent losing size 3 and 4 in any offices so there will be those to do, anything with a tracked or special label will need doing so D.O staff will be put on a rota to complete those duties (like now)
All the Tracked and the size 3 and 4 are going to be direct selections to the parcel hubs. They'll arrive at the MC, be wheeled off the artic and over to the 600s doing the runs to the parcel hubs
SP, weve already been told that our rurals ( and all rurals nationwide) wont be losing the oversized as its not cost effective or efficent to send one postvan with the letters and another with the odd parcel ( that most parcel drivers would never find)
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Re: saturday deliveries

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Well you'll be collecting them from the parcel hub as that's where we'll send them.
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Re: saturday deliveries

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SpacePhoenix wrote:
21 Jul 2022, 10:57
claystones wrote:
21 Jul 2022, 10:43
Saturday letter deliveries to be scrapped according to the Daily Mail i think that was always going to happen i think the union saw that coming a lot of workers would be happy with that
You'll likely be out longer Mon-Fri, either that or you drop down to a PT contract
I'm confused.
We work 5 days a week (most of us)
Last time I checked Mon-Fri was 5 days.
Why would we be out longer or have to drop down to a PT contract.
Only dead fish follow the current
denhamhoop
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Re: saturday deliveries

Post by denhamhoop »

Woody Guthrie wrote:
21 Jul 2022, 13:56
SpacePhoenix wrote:
21 Jul 2022, 10:57
claystones wrote:
21 Jul 2022, 10:43
Saturday letter deliveries to be scrapped according to the Daily Mail i think that was always going to happen i think the union saw that coming a lot of workers would be happy with that
You'll likely be out longer Mon-Fri, either that or you drop down to a PT contract
I'm confused.
We work 5 days a week (most of us)
Last time I checked Mon-Fri was 5 days.
Why would we be out longer or have to drop down to a PT contract.
There will be Saturday deliveries just won't be letters and a week is 7 days and includes Sundays so fully expect it will be shorter hour days on Saturdays and Sundays so therefore longer hours the rest of the week I sincerely hope I'm wrong
Rommagic
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Just parcels on a Saturday.
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claystones wrote:
21 Jul 2022, 10:43
Saturday letter deliveries to be scrapped according to the Daily Mail i think that was always going to happen i think the union saw that coming a lot of workers would be happy with that
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... n-day.html

Yet LTB/316/22 https://www.cwu.org/ltb/ltb-316-22-ofco ... statement/ from CWU about Ofcom's 2022 Review Of The Postal System doesn't seem to mention it specifically (although RM might try it under the bold/large font I've highlighted):

Statement summary

Ofcom’s statement says that broadly the current postal regulatory framework is working well, allowing the postal market to meet the needs of its users. Consequently, Ofcom has decided that a root-and-branch review of the framework is not necessary, and so it will continue the current approach.

Ofcom’s statement is in line with its proposals as reported on in December 2021 under LTB 542/21. In brief, Ofcom has made the following decisions on the regulatory framework for post:

Maintain the current overall framework, including price caps on basic universal services and quality of service standards.
Introduce new targeted consumer protections, requiring parcel operators to have policies and procedures for the fair and appropriate treatment of disabled consumers. Ofcom will also issue new guidance for parcel operators on complaints handling.

Continue to ensure that Royal Mail has commercial flexibility so that it can meet the challenges of providing a financially sustainable universal service.

Require Royal Mail to provide Ofcom with a view of the financial sustainability of the universal service over a longer period than currently requirede. five years rather than the current three year period.

Require Royal Mail to provide and publish a five-year view of its efficiency expectations and report against actual performance. This includes a high level overview of its efficiency ambitions and an insight into the expected operational efficiency of frontline staff. Ofcom has decided that it would not be appropriate or proportionate to impose price controls or set efficiency targets for Royal Mail.


Provide a stable regulatory framework, to support investment by all postal operators and ensure Royal Mail competes on a level playing field. This includes not extending access regulation into the parcels market, and not requiring tracking in the Universal Service Obligation (USO), as Ofcom considers that doing so could be damaging to competition.
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Re: saturday deliveries

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SpacePhoenix wrote:
21 Jul 2022, 10:57
claystones wrote:
21 Jul 2022, 10:43
Saturday letter deliveries to be scrapped according to the Daily Mail i think that was always going to happen i think the union saw that coming a lot of workers would be happy with that
You'll likely be out longer Mon-Fri, either that or you drop down to a PT contract
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Woody Guthrie
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Re: saturday deliveries

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fully expect it will be shorter hour days on Saturdays and Sundays
Why?
Only dead fish follow the current
SpacePhoenix
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Re: saturday deliveries

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mjd24 wrote:
21 Jul 2022, 16:00
SpacePhoenix wrote:
21 Jul 2022, 10:57
claystones wrote:
21 Jul 2022, 10:43
Saturday letter deliveries to be scrapped according to the Daily Mail i think that was always going to happen i think the union saw that coming a lot of workers would be happy with that
You'll likely be out longer Mon-Fri, either that or you drop down to a PT contract
🥱
If there ends up being not enough work for the staff, what do you propose RM does with the hours? :cuppa