spy in vans

[exaandt]

Have been told today that our spy in vans (sat,spy) is going live anyone know if you can be disaplined on these things i.e speeding leaving van unlockedetc.
What are the rules and the laws .
Any thoughts ideas please .
Help

[glenfiddich]

get your self one of these
http://www.navigadget.com/index.php/200 ... sm-jammer/ [/url]

[TrueBlueTerrier]

From the Unions web site: http://www.cwu.org.uk/members/action.as ... 5&catid=21

Relevant extract:

As a consequence of the positive response so far we have agreed that Telemetry can be ‘switched on’ across all areas from Monday 3rd March where it has been installed. This will involve a data cleansing process, in other words the data will be refined to take out the rubbish, leaving accurate and relevant data which in turn will be used to identify potential problems such as harsh braking and speeding. This information will not be used for any purpose other than assisting areas to identify any such problems so that supportive measures can be taken to improve the situation as stated above. No data will be used to identify individuals. CWU representatives can be involved in this process and information will be shared with the CWU locally on a regular basis.

Some of the data regarding driving performance and the approach being taken will be communicated though WTLL sessions and CWU representatives will also be updated by local managers prior to this taking place.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

This may be the LTB in question

To: Branches with POSTAL Members



Dear Colleague



Vehicle Telemetry

Further to LTB 766/07 CWU Headquarters has received further enquiries as regards to vehicle telemetry and requests for an update from the meeting of the 3rd September. The Business has continued to install the hardware which will be required for a general roll out, which has caused understandable concern as to unilateral action. However, we have received assurances that the software will not be connected until our discussions are concluded. The latest exchange of correspondence is attached.



Background



Royal Mail’s proposal is to fit telemetry equipment to every RM vehicle operating from a Mail Centre and the vehicles working out of the 3 largest delivery offices in each AGM area. This equates to around 7000 to 8000 vehicles or between 20% - 25% of the national fleet. Vehicle telemetry equipment is already fitted by CWU agreement in the Network fleet under the RM name of DMS. While all new technology has potential risks it also provides potential opportunities and it is the objective of the Union to get an agreement with the Business that minimises the risks and develops those opportunities for the benefit of our members. The trial at Bradford showed that telemetry coupled with improved training and driver skills identified through a Driver Risk Assessment (DRA) process has the potential to produce substantial savings.



Telemetry - Share in the Savings



Potential savings will be initially generated through better utilisation of vehicles leading to a reduction in the overall fleet numbers, plus, those associated with better targeted driver training and coaching leading to reduced fuel costs, accident costs and maintenance costs. We see sharing these potential savings giving us the opportunity to create a bonus scheme, but at the moment this is something that is currently tied into the national pay talks. We did state at the meeting on the 3rd September that we see making progress in this area as key to us concluding an enabling agreement for telemetry.



Telemetry – Global Positioning System (GPS)



Most enquiries from Branches around telemetry express concerns around the real-time recording and monitoring of drivers doing their job using the GPS tracker facility which can produce a log of where, when, and how long each vehicle was in a location. While the Assets Director, Phil O’Gorman, was at pains to reassure us that the system was not being brought in for staff monitoring purposes; we made it known that we would require within any agreement a robust statement about guarding against it becoming a surveillance tool that would be used as a big stick to beat our members. This will also need to be covered off in an enabling agreement.





Telemetry – Driver information



When installed the system needs to be ‘switched on’ with a special key and the telemetry system transmits data across a satellite link from the vehicles own inbuilt management system, (the very same as F1 cars) this measures key indicators regarding the way a vehicle is being driven, for instance speed, harsh braking events, MPG, engine over revving etc. This data is captured and produces a printout which RM say will be available to all drivers. This will give each driver details of their own driving styles/issues.



Driver Risk Assessment & Driver Coaches



Driver Risk Assessment (DRA) will set a risk profile for each driver, low, medium or high risk. Under the businesses duty of care RM are legally bound to risk assess all hazardous activities, driving a vehicle being right up there with the most hazardous. It must take account of the ‘vehicle’, ‘the driver’ and ‘the journey’. The driver risk assessment process will include an online driver risk assessment and additionally take account of medical factors, licences held, training etc. This information will be used to decide on the best type adjustment to duty or driver training intervention, if required to improve safety. Our view is that the DRA process would be best administered by the creation of a CWU graded Driver Coach and we have proposed this to the business. We feel peer to peer training would deliver the best results. Although the business tried to separate telemetry and driving skill/risk assessments, at this time we feel they are intrinsically linked and as such should be covered by one agreement. We have not concluded an agreement on DRA and drivers should not get involved in this aspect.



Electronic Licence Checks



As part of streamlining the licence check system the business has proposed we move to electronic licence checks via the DVLA. To comply with the Data Protection Act this requires an individual mandate from each driver. Branches should not become involved in this aspect until there is national agreement.



Where Now



Like most technology the Business will get the best performance from their investment if they have the cooperation of the CWU and we will be submitting a draft agreement covering off the areas outlined earlier in this document. In the meantime, however, any attempt by local management to go live with the system without a National Agreement being in place should be notified to CWU Headquarters immediately, utilising the I.R. Framework, where necessary.



Further information will be circulated in due course.



Any enquiries to Bob Gibson’s Office, quoting reference 300.
Email address: hnutley@cwu.org

Yours sincerely



Bob Gibson

Assistant Secretary

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Also postman came up with some links from when this was raised last time

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/forum/vi ... php?t=6414

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/forum/vi ... php?t=6489

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/forum/vi ... php?t=4591

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/forum/vi ... php?t=3894

Sorry i got a bit carried away crazy Have a

[exaandt]

Just to say many thanks to replies to this all very helpful .
Thanks

[kev241]

The trackers in our vans in our office have been activated without us being told... thus managers have approached us with pages of violations! I was not aware that the trackers had gone live... should we not have been told first?

[Broxi51]

As Disgruntledpostie has already said. Do the job properly. It was sneaky of management to do this without informing you's but now stick to the speeds, check your vans and get more OT

[bogstandard]

thus managers have approached us with pages of violations!

Excuse the ignorance but violations of what ?
What are they gonna do with them ?

[POSTMAN]

Also postman came up with some links from when this was raised last time

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... php?t=6414

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... php?t=6489

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... php?t=4591

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... php?t=3894

Sorry i got a bit carried away crazy Have a

Links were wrong,i've changed 'forum' to 'community' it's from the old site.
They should work now.