LTB 059/18 Pay and Four Pillars Agreement : Please read the attachment! : Agreement enclosed!

Post by **Cichlid** » 01 Feb 2018, 16:42

Well done to the union and the mediators for a good deal. Shorter working week, 5% + 2% pay rise and a new pension scheme for all.

When you look at what Royal Mail wanted at the beginning of these negotiations this is a cracking deal.

Ozzvaldo · Post by **Ozzvaldo** » 01 Feb 2018, 16:43

I_Take_My_Breaks wrote:
fishtank wrote:
dundee wrote:Dingo will office affected by later finishing times be told before they vote?

Not likely.
3 months before deployment of change is how I read it but if they have such accurate numbers they must know already.
Perhaps Dingo can give a list of the DO's in each bracket affected by the LAT product.

Interesting to see which DO's are in the 31-45 minute bracket.

I bet mine is. We already have an official finishing time of 3 o'clock and like most offices a significant number of duties are not achievable within the specified time. Of course it doesn't help that our MC dispatches our mail last despite us being much, and I mean much, further from it than anybody else. Some of the offices near it receive their last wagon before ours has even set off on the 90 minute journey.

LouBarlow · Post by **LouBarlow** » 01 Feb 2018, 16:44

Chelseablue wrote:Footy gone on a saturday now oh well nothing left in life to enjoy ,,

We've been working at 3pm every Saturday for years now. This will be a welcome to the real world for a lot of offices I'm afraid. Luckily we have also have 15.30 finishes during the week, for the last two revisions, so again we won't be noticing any difference.

As someone ever sceptical of the union, based on past efforts, everything they have achieved I have been impressed by, however the uncertainty is *still* there surrounding pensions. What happens if government regulation isn't changed in the future? Back to square one?

dundee · Post by **dundee** » 01 Feb 2018, 16:46

How will they implement sww?tell full timers to work faster?I double prep and cut off most days,12 mins later start,will be another loop left between me and partner.I think it looks a good deal,just a few grey areas,need more info

Martin Walsh · Post by **Martin Walsh** » 01 Feb 2018, 16:46

dundee wrote:Dingo will office affected by later finishing times be told before they vote?

yes the divisional reps will be provided copies over the next couple of weeks.

Post by **arsenalbob** » 01 Feb 2018, 16:49

Smart people will know this is a good deal. Not so smart people will read one or two negative comments on here and jump on that particular bandwagon. It's always been the same and does make me chuckle.

RTP · Post by **RTP** » 01 Feb 2018, 16:51

Happy with the pay rise and back pay . Pensions hopefully will be sorted sooner rather than later and time will tell if this agreement doesn’t go the same way as past agreements. Times change and we can’t stand still. Those moaning and groaning need to realise that if they stand still then in the long run they will be worse off. Would also like a peak at those offices on the list . Dingo ;)

dundee · Post by **dundee** » 01 Feb 2018, 16:56

dingo wrote:
dundee wrote:Dingo will office affected by later finishing times be told before they vote?
yes the divisional reps will be provided copies over the next couple of weeks.

Can you give a list of those offices affected please?

daveyeff · Post by **daveyeff** » 01 Feb 2018, 17:05

tonytucker wrote:Another crap deal,massive no vote coming

£21.81 payrise and an hour off your week, then another £9.16 payrise and another hour off your week. wtf is crap about that?...massive YES from me.

Post by **studmuffin** » 01 Feb 2018, 17:14

How will the sww affect network drivers ?

We don't get paid meal reliefs and our working week is 36.15...

What will our hours be with sww ?

postslippete · Post by **postslippete** » 01 Feb 2018, 17:17

So what offices are having to deliver later?? Is it a secret

loverman shabba · Post by **loverman shabba** » 01 Feb 2018, 17:19

3pm on a saturday balls to that i'll be gone. i'd take a pay cut to have saturdays off

stoneybroke · Post by **stoneybroke** » 01 Feb 2018, 17:23

I'm not the sharpest, so just a couple of questions. I've been working as a postie for 10 years and on a 29 hour contract (although I usually work 36-39 hours).

1. On top of the wage rise, will I also get an extra rise when the full-timers get a reduction in hours?
2. Has there been any agreement with regards to holiday and sick pay being made up to usual hours worked for part-timers?
3. Will we get a new individual pension forecast showing figures on retirement for the new proposed scheme?

Thanks in advance.

Martin Walsh · Post by **Martin Walsh** » 01 Feb 2018, 17:31

stoneybroke wrote:I'm not the sharpest, so just a couple of questions. I've been working as a postie for 10 years and on a 29 hour contract (although I usually work 36-39 hours).

1. On top of the wage rise, will I also get an extra rise when the full-timers get a reduction in hours?
2. Has there been any agreement with regards to holiday and sick pay being made up to usual hours worked for part-timers?
3. Will we get a new individual pension forecast showing figures on retirement for the new proposed scheme?

Thanks in advance.

Ok in order 1 yes you will get an additional pay rise or around 2.6% for each hour off the working week one in October and one from April 2019 based on a new Delivery Agreement

2. No this is not included in this agreement but is subject to further talks and also eyes are on pending legal cases.

3. yes you will get a pension illustration

gary1975 · Post by **gary1975** » 01 Feb 2018, 17:41

Does this mean the early starts that the full time staff milk the life out of will stop,