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LTB 815/13 National Agreement Reached

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Re: LTB 815/13 National Agreement Reached

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dougfunny892 wrote:What are the new efficient ways of working going to be?
Swings & Roundabouts apparently :roll:
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Re: LTB 815/13 National Agreement Reached

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freelunch wrote:It's been like watching an epic movie, trying to catch every twist in the plot, listening to the narrator (dingo) pop up once in a while to give some important background info.....
You're all set for the final scene, nervous, tense, waiting and........ and...........
IS THAT IT?

The ending needs to be re-written.
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Re: LTB 815/13 National Agreement Reached

Post by mandelsons_toenail »

freelunch wrote:
dougfunny892 wrote:What are the new efficient ways of working going to be?
Swings & Roundabouts apparently :roll:
My f***ing Dom doesn't even understand the 30 min flexibility rule. He insists everyone can move by 30 minutes. :chuckle

I laughed at him when he mentioned enforcing it, individual circumstance my dear boy, you can ask, but I'll tell you to f**k off

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Re: LTB 815/13 National Agreement Reached

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this deal seems like a pure shambles! bribing us with £££££'s, they can shove it up their arse!! No clear vision on workload or vicious B&H from managers. This should be a clear vote for NO but im sure we all know the idiots will see the £ signs & we will all be on the green mile. w*****s.
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Re: LTB 815/13 National Agreement Reached

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It's this kind of thing that worries me going forward, I don't see it helping B&H - 'We will also use PDA technology to better understand our delivery performance. Some aspects of this strand will require the use of industrial engineers.'

To me this screams tracking your every move from start of delivery to the end!
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trythat wrote:It's this kind of thing that worries me going forward, I don't see it helping B&H - 'We will also use PDA technology to better understand our delivery performance. Some aspects of this strand will require the use of industrial engineers.'

To me this screams tracking your every move from start of delivery to the end!
Easily sorted, take the battery off until you need to use it and give the old it wouldn't hold a charge excuse
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Re: LTB 815/13 National Agreement Reached

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citypostie wrote:
trythat wrote:It's this kind of thing that worries me going forward, I don't see it helping B&H - 'We will also use PDA technology to better understand our delivery performance. Some aspects of this strand will require the use of industrial engineers.'

To me this screams tracking your every move from start of delivery to the end!
Easily sorted, take the battery off until you need to use it and give the old it wouldn't hold a charge excuse
It is reading crap like this that truly makes me despair.
What is so difficult about going to work, doing your job honestly and then going home?
Why would I ever need to remove the battery from my PDA to hide my whereabouts?
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Re: LTB 815/13 National Agreement Reached

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clashcityrocker wrote:
citypostie wrote:
trythat wrote:It's this kind of thing that worries me going forward, I don't see it helping B&H - 'We will also use PDA technology to better understand our delivery performance. Some aspects of this strand will require the use of industrial engineers.'

To me this screams tracking your every move from start of delivery to the end!
Easily sorted, take the battery off until you need to use it and give the old it wouldn't hold a charge excuse
It is reading crap like this that truly makes me despair.
What is so difficult about going to work, doing your job honestly and then going home?
Why would I ever need to remove the battery from my PDA to hide my whereabouts?
Here here to many slackers in royal mail as well as hard working posties!!!
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Re: LTB 815/13 National Agreement Reached

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clashcityrocker wrote:
citypostie wrote:
trythat wrote:It's this kind of thing that worries me going forward, I don't see it helping B&H - 'We will also use PDA technology to better understand our delivery performance. Some aspects of this strand will require the use of industrial engineers.'

To me this screams tracking your every move from start of delivery to the end!
Easily sorted, take the battery off until you need to use it and give the old it wouldn't hold a charge excuse
It is reading crap like this that truly makes me despair.
What is so difficult about going to work, doing your job honestly and then going home?
Why would I ever need to remove the battery from my PDA to hide my whereabouts?
What I don't like is that they will look to see why you took x minutes for delivery point and someone else took y minutes, it's open to abuse, it's no different than managers trying to use IWT on the OPG level, and then against individual OPG. It's hard enough trying to keep the lid on B&H now. Thats why I don't enjoy being watched all the time.
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Re: LTB 815/13 National Agreement Reached

Post by halfull »

trythat wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:
citypostie wrote:
trythat wrote:It's this kind of thing that worries me going forward, I don't see it helping B&H - 'We will also use PDA technology to better understand our delivery performance. Some aspects of this strand will require the use of industrial engineers.'

To me this screams tracking your every move from start of delivery to the end!
Easily sorted, take the battery off until you need to use it and give the old it wouldn't hold a charge excuse
It is reading crap like this that truly makes me despair.
What is so difficult about going to work, doing your job honestly and then going home?
Why would I ever need to remove the battery from my PDA to hide my whereabouts?
What I don't like is that they will look to see why you took x minutes for delivery point and someone else took y minutes, it's open to abuse, it's no different than managers trying to use IWT on the OPG level, and then against individual OPG. It's hard enough trying to keep the lid on B&H now. Thats why I don't enjoy being watched all the time.
i thought the thread was going to a dark place reading the 2 posts before this one but thank god you understand how the use of "tracking pds's" will be used!
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Re: LTB 815/13 National Agreement Reached

Post by dvbuk55 »

Well there's no sign of the ubiquitous road show yet, still it is early days. I have downloaded and printed it off for a detailed perusal, who knows I may change my mind, though reading the introduction it looks more like the opening address of a member of RM Board than an employee of the CWU. :nervous
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Re: LTB 815/13 National Agreement Reached

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clashcityrocker wrote:
citypostie wrote:
trythat wrote:It's this kind of thing that worries me going forward, I don't see it helping B&H - 'We will also use PDA technology to better understand our delivery performance. Some aspects of this strand will require the use of industrial engineers.'

To me this screams tracking your every move from start of delivery to the end!
Easily sorted, take the battery off until you need to use it and give the old it wouldn't hold a charge excuse
It is reading crap like this that truly makes me despair.
What is so difficult about going to work, doing your job honestly and then going home?
Why would I ever need to remove the battery from my PDA to hide my whereabouts?
Ha ha calm down, I only said it because I remember the white arrow drivers telling me how the used to wrap their trackers in tin foil to disrupt the signal. Christ royal mail managers can't answer a phone never mind track and check 80,000 PDAs everyday.
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Re: LTB 815/13 National Agreement Reached

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citypostie wrote:
Ha ha calm down, I only said it because I remember the white arrow drivers telling me how the used to wrap their trackers in tin foil to disrupt the signal. Christ royal mail managers can't answer a phone never mind track and check 80,000 PDAs everyday.
The London buses have telemetry in their cabs that checks their every move.
There is a whole division of people dedicated to checking the whereabouts of every bus every minute, ensuring they are where they are supposed to be and giving the customer accurate information of when the next bus is due.
This is what DPD does isn't it. They text you where the driver who is delivering your packet is and when he will be at your house.
I don't care if they want to track my every move from the start of my delivery to the end of my delivery. I don't do anything worth talking about.
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Re: LTB 815/13 National Agreement Reached

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clashcityrocker wrote:
citypostie wrote:
Ha ha calm down, I only said it because I remember the white arrow drivers telling me how the used to wrap their trackers in tin foil to disrupt the signal. Christ royal mail managers can't answer a phone never mind track and check 80,000 PDAs everyday.
The London buses have telemetry in their cabs that checks their every move.
There is a whole division of people dedicated to checking the whereabouts of every bus every minute, ensuring they are where they are supposed to be and giving the customer accurate information of when the next bus is due.
I don't care if they want to track my every move from the start of my delivery to the end of my delivery. I don't do anything worth talking about.

It happens all over the country as well. I have an app on my phone called "First BUs" it tells me when the next bus is due at the stop I am at. Whilst I understand the fear people have of being tracked when not working, I think its something we need to get used to when we are. Unfortunately the benefits to customers outweigh the drawbacks to workers and thats where the focus is.
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Re: LTB 815/13 National Agreement Reached

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clashcityrocker wrote: I don't do anything worth talking about.
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