These big books then.

[fishtank]

Some reps covet information as if it is the source of their power.
A site like this that encourages the sharing of information is not to be trusted.

[POSTMAN]

Nam et ipsa scientia potestas est

[postiemids]

If all agreements were freely available and adhered to, then there would be no need to have a "Downloads" section on this site.
The fact they make it up as they go along and rarely stick to any agreement they don't like makes life much harder than it needs to be.
And "the devil's work"?
Is your DO stuck in the 15th century where reps are burnt at the stake?

Well my office is wolves north east DO and to be honest none of the reps or area reps would back me up all they said was as long as bag doesnt weigh over 16kg then you can take them

couldnt belive i was hauled in office with health and safty rep and union rep just because i told me collegues dont take them as van drivers are supposed to he was saying if i wanted to be a get i could suspend you and do ya for wilfull delay and causing industrial actions ffs makes me mad

[postiemids]

and also cos ive been with royal mail for 2 years and a bit i asked for me perm contract and they have said because of me sick record they wont give me a perm contract do feel like im back in the victorian era lol

[TrueBlueTerrier]

If all agreements were freely available and adhered to, then there would be no need to have a "Downloads" section on this site.
The fact they make it up as they go along and rarely stick to any agreement they don't like makes life much harder than it needs to be.
And "the devil's work"?
Is your DO stuck in the 15th century where reps are burnt at the stake?

Well my office is wolves north east DO and to be honest none of the reps or area reps would back me up all they said was as long as bag doesnt weigh over 16kg then you can take them

couldnt belive i was hauled in office with health and safty rep and union rep just because i told me collegues dont take them as van drivers are supposed to he was saying if i wanted to be a get i could suspend you and do ya for wilfull delay and causing industrial actions ffs makes me mad

A rep (or two) threatened you with suspension - do we really have reps that can go this low. If they did say it they are lying, vindictive arse licking vermin, because 1. They can't only Managers can. 2. It's completely against any Union value that I know of.

At the very least they could have researched it and shown you the proof of their assertions, not threaten you.

Sorry to say this but I hope either you got it wrong or that I have got the wrong end of the stick.

[fishtank]

I think the manager was doing the threatening teebs although the fact that two reps allegedly stood there and let him pretty much leaves them deserving the title you gave them anyway.
I take it both reps are drivers.

[postiemids]

no the manager saids he could suspend me the health and safty and my union rep sat there said we have to take the big books as long as ya bag dont weigh over 16kg as we have not had a revision yet still working old way lol

and the manager said he could suspend me for wilfull delay if he wanted to as noone would take there big books after i showed them the paper sating catalouges should go with van drivers and then they proceeded to say this is the union and management this forum is the devils work i really am losing faith in the union as i expected a bit more support on this issue its all sorted now tho as i took the books as didnt want to give them an excuse just really cheesed off that the union support was like this even the area rep of wolves are said same thing as long as the weight doesnt excedd bag weights then you can take them really cheeses me off do wonder what i pay me subs for

[postiemids]

I think the manager was doing the threatening teebs although the fact that two reps allegedly stood there and let him pretty much leaves them deserving the title you gave them anyway.
I take it both reps are drivers.

yeh both reps drivers lol

[IloveMYredTROLLEY!]

Sounds like time for grievance against managers and perhaps even written record of complaint further up the union chain.

[clashcityrocker]

As I posted earlier they have a different agreement to the one posted on here.

[POSTMAN]

Would be good to see the new agreement,someone must have it,or be able to get hold of it.

[clashcityrocker]

I can't post the PDF file but it says something like:

Shut the feck up and do what you are told.
Big Books don't go with drivers and Postman is Satan.

Signed: cut and paste.

[POSTMAN]

Signed: cut and paste.?

[clashcityrocker]

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