1st Class Delivered In Your Own Time If It Is Missed

[A2B]

But they are all due for delivery that day and should be on the system as such before they reach the DO, currently we are doing the same thing twice

Will ALL the 2C ALWAYS go out for delivery without fail?

No Tracked are left, 1st class and Tracked are delivered everyday.

Even if there were to be some it would be far easier to remove them than repeat scanning every morning

[yellowbelly]

I get paid to deliver parcels that specifically come in late. I don't get paid to post someone else's letter. What incentive is there for them to do their job if they know nothing will happen to them for leaving it?

Within 5-10 years I reckon a very sizeable chunk of letters and flats will be Tracked. Already MCs are sending Tracked letters and flats out in trays both between the Outward and Inward MCs and the Inward MCs to DOs.

If that's the case RM might need to think about taking out the requirement for the walk postie to 'Scan to route' the sizeable chunk
of letters/flats that will be tracked that you refer to and automating the process somehow. Scanning individual tracked letters and flats in a 'sizeable' volume will be so inefficient.

The system basically needs to know that an item is going out for delivery that day and on which walk. How can the system know an item isn't going out if items aren't scanned out to a walk?

What?

That's why I said "...automating the process somehow."

[SpacePhoenix]

I get paid to deliver parcels that specifically come in late. I don't get paid to post someone else's letter. What incentive is there for them to do their job if they know nothing will happen to them for leaving it?

Within 5-10 years I reckon a very sizeable chunk of letters and flats will be Tracked. Already MCs are sending Tracked letters and flats out in trays both between the Outward and Inward MCs and the Inward MCs to DOs.

If that's the case RM might need to think about taking out the requirement for the walk postie to 'Scan to route' the sizeable chunk
of letters/flats that will be tracked that you refer to and automating the process somehow. Scanning individual tracked letters and flats in a 'sizeable' volume will be so inefficient.

The system basically needs to know that an item is going out for delivery that day and on which walk. How can the system know an item isn't going out if items aren't scanned out to a walk?

What?

That's why I said "...automating the process somehow."

The only way to automate the process would be to deem EVERYTHING as going out for delivery and EVERYTHING actually does go out for delivery.

[yellowbelly]

I get paid to deliver parcels that specifically come in late. I don't get paid to post someone else's letter. What incentive is there for them to do their job if they know nothing will happen to them for leaving it?

Within 5-10 years I reckon a very sizeable chunk of letters and flats will be Tracked. Already MCs are sending Tracked letters and flats out in trays both between the Outward and Inward MCs and the Inward MCs to DOs.

If that's the case RM might need to think about taking out the requirement for the walk postie to 'Scan to route' the sizeable chunk
of letters/flats that will be tracked that you refer to and automating the process somehow. Scanning individual tracked letters and flats in a 'sizeable' volume will be so inefficient.

The system basically needs to know that an item is going out for delivery that day and on which walk. How can the system know an item isn't going out if items aren't scanned out to a walk?

What?

That's why I said "...automating the process somehow."

The only way to automate the process would be to deem EVERYTHING as going out for delivery and EVERYTHING actually does go out for delivery.

That's it, that's what I was getting at! Doesn't mean it'll actually get delivered through the letterbox though.

This happens at the moment- parcels are scanned to core route - they get taken out on delivery - run out of time - 'Delivery Not Attempted'

[Iva bigredbag]

Anyone else have a manager phoning you up when you’re out on delivery if you miss even 1 1st class letter in the fitting (of mail you don’t take out) they make us come back to the depot to get it and if this causes us to be late finishing we have to do it in our own time unpaid! Surely this is illegal, forcing us to work unpaid? Just when you think this company can’t get any worse it does…

Dont work a minute unpaid, where is your union? If you dont mind speaking up, ask for it in writing. Watch his face turn

"Where is your union?" haha good joke.

[TopperGas]

I get paid to deliver parcels that specifically come in late. I don't get paid to post someone else's letter. What incentive is there for them to do their job if they know nothing will happen to them for leaving it?

Within 5-10 years I reckon a very sizeable chunk of letters and flats will be Tracked. Already MCs are sending Tracked letters and flats out in trays both between the Outward and Inward MCs and the Inward MCs to DOs.

If that's the case RM might need to think about taking out the requirement for the walk postie to 'Scan to route' the sizeable chunk
of letters/flats that will be tracked that you refer to and automating the process somehow. Scanning individual tracked letters and flats in a 'sizeable' volume will be so inefficient.

The system basically needs to know that an item is going out for delivery that day and on which walk. How can the system know an item isn't going out if items aren't scanned out to a walk?

What?

That's why I said "...automating the process somehow."

The only way to automate the process would be to deem EVERYTHING as going out for delivery and EVERYTHING actually does go out for delivery.

The time.slot is the issue, as a customer is only informed of when to expect the parcel.once it's scanned tomcore.and then confirmed, not that 99% seem.take.any notice anyway!!

[Emohawk]

I get paid to deliver parcels that specifically come in late. I don't get paid to post someone else's letter. What incentive is there for them to do their job if they know nothing will happen to them for leaving it?

Within 5-10 years I reckon a very sizeable chunk of letters and flats will be Tracked. Already MCs are sending Tracked letters and flats out in trays both between the Outward and Inward MCs and the Inward MCs to DOs.

If that's the case RM might need to think about taking out the requirement for the walk postie to 'Scan to route' the sizeable chunk
of letters/flats that will be tracked that you refer to and automating the process somehow. Scanning individual tracked letters and flats in a 'sizeable' volume will be so inefficient.

Should be simple to do, if you are prepared to spend the money. Buy some sorting machines that sort parcels to specific York's for each York, scanning the 2d code as they go. When the York is full, print off a dpr route code with those track items on. Then, when the York gets to the office, you just need to scan the dpr code to you walk route.

[SpacePhoenix]

I get paid to deliver parcels that specifically come in late. I don't get paid to post someone else's letter. What incentive is there for them to do their job if they know nothing will happen to them for leaving it?

Within 5-10 years I reckon a very sizeable chunk of letters and flats will be Tracked. Already MCs are sending Tracked letters and flats out in trays both between the Outward and Inward MCs and the Inward MCs to DOs.

If that's the case RM might need to think about taking out the requirement for the walk postie to 'Scan to route' the sizeable chunk
of letters/flats that will be tracked that you refer to and automating the process somehow. Scanning individual tracked letters and flats in a 'sizeable' volume will be so inefficient.

Should be simple to do, if you are prepared to spend the money. Buy some sorting machines that sort parcels to specific York's for each York, scanning the 2d code as they go. When the York is full, print off a dpr route code with those track items on. Then, when the York gets to the office, you just need to scan the dpr code to you walk route.

How many walks does a typical DPR cover? I think the main issue would be the space it would take up. Existing packet sorting machines in MCs can be used for inward or outward. They take up a massive amount of floor space, only the largest MCs can fit them in.

[Emohawk]

I get paid to deliver parcels that specifically come in late. I don't get paid to post someone else's letter. What incentive is there for them to do their job if they know nothing will happen to them for leaving it?

Within 5-10 years I reckon a very sizeable chunk of letters and flats will be Tracked. Already MCs are sending Tracked letters and flats out in trays both between the Outward and Inward MCs and the Inward MCs to DOs.

If that's the case RM might need to think about taking out the requirement for the walk postie to 'Scan to route' the sizeable chunk
of letters/flats that will be tracked that you refer to and automating the process somehow. Scanning individual tracked letters and flats in a 'sizeable' volume will be so inefficient.

Should be simple to do, if you are prepared to spend the money. Buy some sorting machines that sort parcels to specific York's for each York, scanning the 2d code as they go. When the York is full, print off a dpr route code with those track items on. Then, when the York gets to the office, you just need to scan the dpr code to you walk route.

How many walks does a typical DPR cover? I think the main issue would be the space it would take up. Existing packet sorting machines in MCs can be used for inward or outward. They take up a massive amount of floor space, only the largest MCs can fit them in.

When I say DPR, I simply mean assigning all the parcels for one duty to a pre loaded code. Technically, you could just use your core route number. It would save having to sort and then scan all the parcels in.

I understand that parcel sorting machines are massive, which is where the money part comes in. At some point, royal mail is going to have to invest in parcel sorting if it is to become the parcel business it wants to be.

[funkflex55]

I get paid to deliver parcels that specifically come in late. I don't get paid to post someone else's letter. What incentive is there for them to do their job if they know nothing will happen to them for leaving it?

Within 5-10 years I reckon a very sizeable chunk of letters and flats will be Tracked. Already MCs are sending Tracked letters and flats out in trays both between the Outward and Inward MCs and the Inward MCs to DOs.

If that's the case RM might need to think about taking out the requirement for the walk postie to 'Scan to route' the sizeable chunk
of letters/flats that will be tracked that you refer to and automating the process somehow. Scanning individual tracked letters and flats in a 'sizeable' volume will be so inefficient.

The system basically needs to know that an item is going out for delivery that day and on which walk. How can the system know an item isn't going out if items aren't scanned out to a walk?

What?

That's why I said "...automating the process somehow."

The only way to automate the process would be to deem EVERYTHING as going out for delivery and EVERYTHING actually does go out for delivery.

The time.slot is the issue, as a customer is only informed of when to expect the parcel.once it's scanned tomcore.and then confirmed, not that 99% seem.take.any notice anyway!!

Had one of the 1 percent club ask me why the parcel didn't arrive within in the 4 hour window, it was 10 mins late! I told him the times are only an estimate. The public have no idea the volume of work we do each day, then again the CWU don't either.

[SpacePhoenix]

I get paid to deliver parcels that specifically come in late. I don't get paid to post someone else's letter. What incentive is there for them to do their job if they know nothing will happen to them for leaving it?

Within 5-10 years I reckon a very sizeable chunk of letters and flats will be Tracked. Already MCs are sending Tracked letters and flats out in trays both between the Outward and Inward MCs and the Inward MCs to DOs.

If that's the case RM might need to think about taking out the requirement for the walk postie to 'Scan to route' the sizeable chunk
of letters/flats that will be tracked that you refer to and automating the process somehow. Scanning individual tracked letters and flats in a 'sizeable' volume will be so inefficient.

The system basically needs to know that an item is going out for delivery that day and on which walk. How can the system know an item isn't going out if items aren't scanned out to a walk?

What?

That's why I said "...automating the process somehow."

The only way to automate the process would be to deem EVERYTHING as going out for delivery and EVERYTHING actually does go out for delivery.

The time.slot is the issue, as a customer is only informed of when to expect the parcel.once it's scanned tomcore.and then confirmed, not that 99% seem.take.any notice anyway!!

Had one of the 1 percent club ask me why the parcel didn't arrive within in the 4 hour window, it was 10 mins late! I told him the times are only an estimate. The public have no idea the volume of work we do each day, then again the CWU don't either.

Often when I'm tracking something on Amazon's site that I'm waiting for, the delivery estimate time slot will change, why can't RM do something similar?

[funkflex55]

Probably because whilst the parcels are still going out with letters the estimates and reality are never going to accurately match. The DPR it would work for but the drivers would have to stick to the order set by the sat nav.