Allan Leighton calls time as chairman at Royal Mail

[DGP1]

Thing is its not junk its criminal mail and Spring Global in Amsterdam are putting it into the system, no questions asked and even though they have a contractual right to spot check all bulk mail they do not.
They are flooding the UK with illigal mail and our posties are then bound by law to deliver it .
Spring global is a joint ventre between ROYAL MAIL / T.N.T / SINGAPORE POST
Now the posties are learning the truth ,they are being deliberatly used as mules to traffic for criminals.
Once in this country the ROYAL MULE quite rightly say they have a legal obligation to deliver all addressed mail, what they are keeping quiet about is that there secret company is sending reps out all over the world looking for contracts.
They even bring in criminal mail and flag it up with the apperance of originating from the UK the envelope inside sends the victims cash to a po box in another country, keepin the scammers clear of our laws.
HANDS UP ALL THOSE WHO KNEW ABOUT THE SPRING GLOBAL/ROYAL MULE COVER UP !!
lIKE I SAID ALAN L IS OFF, BEFORE THE *** HITS THE FAN !!!

It was on an episode of Watchdog last year or the year before.

[MILLIE&MO]

Yes thats right but you would be suprised at how many R.M employees have never heard of Iit!!

[Glenno]

Yes thats right but you would be suprised at how many R.M employees have never heard of Iit!!

heard of what ha ha he he

[BB brother]

this is gonna get me lynched but i dont think he actually did that bad a Job.
Tony Blair f#cked Royal Mail up with his federal Europe dream long before A.L. came onto the scene.
Fortunatley the bit that A.L. did f#ck up was breaking the Union and, for that concieted under-estimation, i would like to thank him

Good luck to the old boy ! At least someones screwin money out of RM.


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[BB brother]

Pass what ? The Dutchie

[Goosnargh ex postie]

amazing how RM is suddenly showing a profit ...
" money helps the world go round " or should it be Leighton go round ?
being The Goosnargh Gooner
I hope he takes over:-
Chelski, Man Utd, Spurs,Liverpool,Villa
He did a great job with Leeds Utd

Now he's cocked up the Royal Mail and will run with a bonus.
I wonder if his side-kick will join him ?

[DGP1]

amazing how RM is suddenly showing a profit ...
" money helps the world go round " or should it be Leighton go round ?
being The Goosnargh Gooner
I hope he takes over:-
Chelski, Man Utd, Spurs,Liverpool,Villa
He did a great job with Leeds Utd

Now he's cocked up the Royal Mail and will run with a bonus.
I wonder if his side-kick will join him ?

Croziers contract is up soon and with Mandy saying that the current management don't have what it take to lead the company into the future, I can't see him staying for that long.

[norbert]

this is gonna get me lynched but i dont think he actually did that bad a Job.
Tony Blair f#cked Royal Mail up with his federal Europe dream long before A.L. came onto the scene.
Fortunatley the bit that A.L. did f#ck up was breaking the Union and, for that concieted under-estimation, i would like to thank him

Good luck to the old boy ! At least someones screwin money out of RM.


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the word was that Blairite DTI Minister was keen on Leighton's Walmart "union avoidance " as the CWU would be a barrier to RMG split up - however the head hunters that recruited the dynamic duo were a firm of German Bankers acting as agents if you will , for then Chancellor Mr McBean's Stakeholder Executive ; which was formed to increase the value of whole / part Government companies .

It also begs the question of why increase the value of the Nation's silver unless McBean's sums don't add up - you name it , selling off gold reserve , pensions ; it's dodgy ? , the PFI idea which will bankrupt this country was originally used by Mussolini during World War II , the Keynes on acid inflating the economy idea has been used by Mugawbe in a banana republic

:lfo 's problem was arrogance , egotism , vanity and conceit ( no surprise there ? ) , at the end of the day he was just a hit man for the Postcon monster doing the EEC's bidding that New Liebour created , he has tried to turn the tables on his New Labour Paymasters but it didn't work ; hence the Warwick Agreement in 2005 , as New Labour didn't want any IR / IA with a general election .

the biggest criticism of RM's Board was they spent the first two years with the hearts and minds anti - union battle , they were chomping at the leash for a strike in 2003 , but it backfired as :lfo couldn't control his managers .
the next two years was a push for Privatization , which as we all know can get very nasty , most of the RM board of 2007 have had to " persue other careers " .

The problems are New Labour's " managerialism " - the idea being that a " good " manager can manage anything without having experience of that discipline ; too blue sky thinking and it hasn't worked especially with New Labour NHS / Civil Service agencies IT projects .
Also there's the "Public Sector " Reforms " " which don't serve the people they are supposed to serve .

The irony about the dream Federal Europe was that the EEC was founded by former Fascists from World War II , if countries give up their sovereignty , it saved the Fascists the trouble of bombing them into submission ?

:mfo is looking for a way of moving the goalposts and getting B- Liar & McBean out of the mess they caused .



New Labour did go for the Federal Europe dream too quickly , the interesting bits were what was ringfenced and what wasn't , the CWU did miss quite a few tricks with the Postal Services Act 2000 ?

the right wing papers say the whole thing was fudged , I think that explains all the bitterness from twice resigned :mfo ? , New Labour in opposition didn't like the CWU going on strike and stopping Tory privatization and RM style destructive and divisive team working . No wonder they'd Johnson neutralized and poacher turned gamekeeper ?

[BB brother]

Alright Norbert.

What was the warwick agreement all about?

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Alright Norbert.

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What was the warwick agreement all about?

Q&A: The 'Warwick agreement'
What the 2004 Warwick deal means for relations between the Labour government and the unions

* Ian J Griffiths
* guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 13 September 2005 13.26 BST
* Article history

What is the Warwick agreement?
It is a deal struck in July 2004 at Warwick University between the government and the unions over Labour policy and trade union law.

What was the significance of the deal?
It made peace between discontented elements in the unions and the government. It thereby averted the threat of mass disaffiliation from the party by the unions and helped to secure union support for Labour in the 2005 election.

What were they doing in Warwick?
They were meeting for a policy forum, a kind of gathering pioneered by Neil Kinnock and Lord Sawyer, the former party secretary, a decade earlier to help the unions and Labour to discuss policy issues outside of the main party conference.

What was agreed?
There were a series of agreements right across the policy field on issues such as public services, manufacturing and pensions.

What did the unions get out of it?
They managed to wring a series of commitments out of the government, even though many of them were in the form of reviews.

- A women at work commission was promised to investigate unequal pay and report back in a year.

- There was a pledge to eradicate a two-tier workforce in the public sector that saw privately-employed workers paid less, and to ensure the vast majority of NHS services would be provided directly by the public sector.

- Health care assistants would be given time off to train to enable the NHS to recruit its own nurses and unethical nursing agencies would be regulated.

- A series of changes were also to be made to the private finance initiative to guarantee greater equality when choosing between investment via the PFI or conventional public spending.

- The government agreed to protect pensions for workers moving from one employer to another. It also undertook to ask employers to match government funding for the pensions assistance scheme for workers whose pensions were lost when their company went bust.

- A phased move towards employees having a 50% representation among trustees managing pension schemes would also take place and pensions would be formally included in statutory collective bargaining.

- Labour agreed to support a new EU agency workers directive and to introduce sector forums to bring together unions and employers in low-paid areas, as well as ensuring a new compact be provided for new workers, advising on the right to join a trade union and health and safety measures.

- Workers on strike would not be allowed to be dismissed until 12 weeks after the start of the dispute, instead of eight weeks.

- The government gave the nod to concessions to British manufacturing, with business support for the sector to be reviewed. It also said it would help British companies benefit from government procurement decisions and make new efforts to improve British workers' conditions in comparison with their European counterparts.

- There would, the government said, be free training for unskilled workers up to NVQ level 2 and a threefold increase in the number of union learning representatives to 20,000. A training levy on employers would be introduced in those sectors that failed to meet minimum training requirements.

- The government agreed to publish a draft bill on corporate manslaughter in the autumn of 2004, with a commitment to legislate.

Who was happiest about the agreement?
Both sides were happy, it seemed. Union leaders professed themselves delighted, while party officials said no government red lines were crossed and that many of the reforms were already on the way, independent of union pressure.

What did unions mean when they called for a 'Warwick Two' at the TUC congress in 2005?
They essentially wanted more government commitments to follow up the changes agreed at Warwick. Many unions had become dissatisfied with what they considered a slow pace of progress since the agreements of summer 2004.

The TUC passed a motion for a trade union freedom private members bill, in the wake of the dispute between Gate Gourmet and its catering staff at Heathrow airport. The unions wanted to secure better protection for workers amid a climate of deregulation.

The bill, drawn up by the MP John McDonnell with help from the Institute of Employment Rights, would give protection for workers starting from their first day at work and cut the amount of notice required for a strike ballot.

It set out demands for minimum terms and conditions in each sector of industry, simplifying workplace ballot procedures and suspending workers' contracts during lawful disputes.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Alright Norbert.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2005 ... ons.labour" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

What was the warwick agreement all about?

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Full Employment and Working in modern Britain
The TULO Guide to the Warwick Agreement
National Policy Forum 25 July 2004

Public Services

* Extending two-tier workforce protection in Local Govt across the public services, in consultation with the social partners
* Consult with key stakeholders to monitor PFI, inc. future financial implications
* Reform of local authority PFI credits to ensure equality of funding between PFI and conventional procurement
* Confirmation that PFI does not require transfer of staff
* NHS Choice and Capacity - the vast bulk of NHS services will remain directly provided
* Review of NHS cleaning contracts on test of cleanliness
* Network Rail to oversee all rail engineering work; national rail card
* New rules for Quality bus contracts – giving greater public accountability. PTEs to have more control over fares. Crossrail Bill
* Agreement to tackle unequal pay in local government inc. gender segregation
* Public Services Forum will engage with unions on workforce development
* Commitment on no extension of school selection by ability; affirm LEA role in admissions and raising standards
* Making private schools justify charitable status to Charity Commission
* Increase access to higher education for disadvantaged groups
* Commitment to address term time workers issue
* Measures to promote healthy eating in schools
* Steps to develop staff e.g. health care assistants with paid training and poss. registration
* Full implementation of the mental health national service framework
* Elected regional govt to draw powers from central rather than local govt
* Continued investment in council housing; more borrowing powers for councils; tackling abuses in Right to Buy
* Strategy to promote independent living for elderly people where possible

Fairness at work

* Commitment to full employment
* New ‘compact’, with contractors and unions to ensure that, when Government contracts for services, employees have access to trade unions, advice, basic training and skills.
* Steps towards a national policy of occupational health and safety
* Will legislate on corporate manslaughter; compensation for victims; draft this session.
* UK government to support the EU Agency Workers Directive, and to engage with the Commission with a view to reaching an early agreement on the proposed Directive
* A commitment to work in partnership with strong, modern trade unions and to help unions such grow
* New sectoral forums bringing social partners together in low paid sectors to discuss strategies for productivity, health and safety, pay, skills and pensions
* Working with unions and employers to develop a comprehensive, voluntary, ‘good employment standard’
* Radically improved enforcement; advice, guidance and support for workers
* New measures on insolvency to ensure that management consult and do not take precipative action such as removing plant
* Uprating of redundancy pay
* Review of changes in employment tribunal regulations, including the issue of re-instatement
* Low Pay Commission to examine differential pay rates for 18-21 year olds
* Protection from dismissal for strikers raised from 8 weeks to 12 weeks
* Keep the Agricultural Wages Board and consider extending its remit
* Bank holidays cannot be counted in four weeks statutory holiday
* Support for pilot in union recruitment in small firms
* Assurance that Posting of Workers Directive will not lead to under-cutting
* Family friendly rights inc. review the right to request flexible hours for parents and carers, maternity, paternity, adoptive and parental leave (including paid); extending respite care
* Major roll-out of childcare schemes; inc Sure Start and Extended Childcare Scheme for lone parents.
* New Women at work Commission reporting in 12 months including on mandatory equal pay audits and equality reps
* Recognition of the value of facility time for workplace union reps and need for a discussion between Government and unions on this
* Rights for migrant workers, inc. stopping employers holding passports of migrant workers
* Using ASBOs, eg on buses and in pubs; tackling violence and anti-social behaviour in and around front-line workplaces

Pensions

* TUPE-style protection to include pensions affected by a company transfer or merge
* Steps to make Pension Credit payment more automatic and steps to move beyond old-style means testing
* Moving to make pensions a bargaining issue for recognition proposes
* Measures on women and pensions – report back in 2005
* Commitment on pensions for same sex partners
* Assistance for those who have already lost out on occupational pensions, seeking contributions from the private sector
* Training for pension trustees and move to 50% member trustees
* Agreement to engage in effective dialogue over future of public sector pensions
* Legislation if necessary following the Turner Commission to move beyond the current voluntary occupational pensions system

Manufacturing

* Review and enhance investment funds for support for manufacturing with a view to having the best business support possible.
* Increase R&D investment to 2.5% of national income
* £1 billion extra spending on Science
* £178m funding for the Technology strategy by 2007/8
* Additional funding of £6million a year for the manufacturing advisory service.
* Improve export credit facilities
* Promote a procurement strategy which safeguards UK jobs and skills as permitted within EU rules to ensure that British industry can compete fairly with the rest of Europe.
* Encourage public procurement contracts to be given to UK firms and benefit UK workers within EU law
* Support an EU review of procurement policy.
* A strong skills agenda
o Expansion of apprenticeships
o Rolling out Employer Training Pilots, with training for all up to NVQ2
o Action in sectors under-performing on skills, including possibly training levies.
o Target to treble the number of Union Learning Reps to 22,000
o Removing barriers to TULRs, including through workplace committees
o Pathway for training as a bargaining issue
o Supporting trade union academy
* Ensure RDAs produce manufacturing strategies and work with employers and trade unions
* Encourage RDAs to assist manufacturers to find new markets
* Bank of England to take note of regional and employment data and to engage with all stakeholders including trade unions
* Improve productivity through a culture of long term investment, skills and high quality production



Additional commitments

* Labour is committed to narrowing inequalities in society, tackling the gap between rich and poor and abolishing child and pensioner poverty
* Domestic violence – further action to tackle domestic violence and support those at risk
* Royal Mail to stay in public hands; telecom regulation to focus on service choice and reliability, as well as network competition
* Pensioners to remain able to collect benefits from post office
* Agreement on steps to take forward the Disability rights agenda, with more Access to Work help
* Immediate review of NI Lower Earnings Limit to help low-paid workers get benefits
* Stronger company disclosure on social, ethical & environmental issues
* New Deal to utilize voluntary and private sector expertise; help for unemployed over-50s
* Consider further action to promote race equality in private sector
* Action to tackle unethical labour agencies in health sector
* Extend training for police staff in widening their roles
* Consider certification of air cabin crew
* Take account of both UK industry and Less Developed Countries in radical reform of EU sugar regime
* Actively promote accredited proof of age card for age-restricted sales
* Consider ways to reduce smoking hazards at work
* Legal limits to stop rip-off interest rates for credit
* Will address long professional driver hours inc. self employed asap
* Balanced energy policy
* Encouragement of recycling/reducing waste; aid for alternative fuels
* New wildlife, marine protection and animal welfare provisions
* Consideration of road pricing, with proceeds to help transport investment
* Precautionary approach to GM food; UK aim to produce 70% of its organic consumption
* Recognition of importance of fish processing in Scotland
* Commitments on world debt relief, increasing overseas aid and funds to tackle HIV/AIDS



Commitments from March 2004 NPF, also going to 2004 Party Conference

* Migrant workers from all EU member states should enjoy equal freedom of movement. Agreed to monitor asylum seekers who file late applications to assess any undue hardship. Labour will meet full obligations to asylum seekers and refugees under international conventions. Asylum seekers to retain right of appeal to the High Court

* More support for developing countries and their civil society organisations to participate in World Trade Organisation

* Military intervention only as a last resort where all non-violent methods have failed, operating within international law and the framework of the UN. Call on Israel and Palestine to implement UN Security Council resolution 1515

* Strengthen EU Code of conduct on Arms control and work for an International Arms Trade Treaty to prevent the sale of weapons globally where they may be used to abuse human rights, fuel conflict or undermine development.

* Review arrangements for compensation for time off for community activities and political restriction rules and better support for time off for public duties.

* No donation caps on political parties, and nothing to undermine trade union link

* Backing for European charter of fundmental rights in EU constitution

* Safeguards on any move towards electoral reform and reform of House of Lords

* New Commission for Equality and Human Rights to work with unions. Review of current legislation, and draft a Single Equality Act

[BB brother]

Cheers TBT !
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[norbert]

Thanks for that TBT , that would be very enlightening for everybody .

I remember :lfo saying " The Warwick Agreement doesn't faze me - it's all down to the Shareholders and the CEO / Chairman " - enough said

The Sun predictably had a begrudged attitude towards it when they were reporting on the RMT's executive members heckling during one of His Toninesses Party Conferences - there was " quotes " from MP's like " these w***ers aren't even in the Labour Party " .

What people will have to watch for in 2010 is Dave Snooty and his pals having this and other important stuff watered down due to pressure from the CBI , as bad as New Labour might seem now .

[simjan]

Anyone starting a whip round for his leaving pressie! Suggestions please.

[DGP1]

Anyone starting a whip round for his leaving pressie! Suggestions please.

I did before but it was deleted