So do the Saturday postie has to take parcels over two duties plus 1C or two posties share a van and take parcels over 4 duties and 1C?
Either way tracked will ALWAYS come first in the manager's eyes. For example if you have 4 hours on a Saturday to deliver 200 parcels off both duties (tracked and non tracked) plus 50 first class letters, 5 specials, 2 collection boxes and a customer collection that is about 60 items an hour. The average time to go out on delivery is 9am at my office on a Saturday so I'm guessing with no prep then Saturday drivers will be out closer to 8am otherwise it will be impossible to complete.
They always assume it take’s less time than it actually does. Underestimation of time to deliver and also the volume of 2c mail, is built into the new Pilot method.
Why would 2C come into it on a Saturday? There won't be any 2C delivered on a Saturday.
I was making a general comment about the Pilot as you well know
However, I suspect 2c will indeed come into play on a Saturday in order to clear it.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
So do the Saturday postie has to take parcels over two duties plus 1C or two posties share a van and take parcels over 4 duties and 1C?
Either way tracked will ALWAYS come first in the manager's eyes. For example if you have 4 hours on a Saturday to deliver 200 parcels off both duties (tracked and non tracked) plus 50 first class letters, 5 specials, 2 collection boxes and a customer collection that is about 60 items an hour. The average time to go out on delivery is 9am at my office on a Saturday so I'm guessing with no prep then Saturday drivers will be out closer to 8am otherwise it will be impossible to complete.
60 items per hour ? That'll probably be the expected rate along with 10 minutes when you get back to put 2000 d2ds in ready to deliver with the 3 days mail on Monday and Tuesday
So do the Saturday postie has to take parcels over two duties plus 1C or two posties share a van and take parcels over 4 duties and 1C?
Either way tracked will ALWAYS come first in the manager's eyes. For example if you have 4 hours on a Saturday to deliver 200 parcels off both duties (tracked and non tracked) plus 50 first class letters, 5 specials, 2 collection boxes and a customer collection that is about 60 items an hour. The average time to go out on delivery is 9am at my office on a Saturday so I'm guessing with no prep then Saturday drivers will be out closer to 8am otherwise it will be impossible to complete.
They always assume it take’s less time than it actually does. Underestimation of time to deliver and also the volume of 2c mail, is built into the new Pilot method.
Why would 2C come into it on a Saturday? There won't be any 2C delivered on a Saturday.
I was making a general comment about the Pilot as you well know
However, I suspect 2c will indeed come into play on a Saturday in order to clear it.
If the 2C does end up coming into play on a Saturday when instead of holding all the 2C on a Friday night, the system will release it as normal so in theory you could get some Saturdays where you get 2-3 boxes, may 4-5 for busier walks, perhaps even six for the odd walk of mech
So do the Saturday postie has to take parcels over two duties plus 1C or two posties share a van and take parcels over 4 duties and 1C?
Either way tracked will ALWAYS come first in the manager's eyes. For example if you have 4 hours on a Saturday to deliver 200 parcels off both duties (tracked and non tracked) plus 50 first class letters, 5 specials, 2 collection boxes and a customer collection that is about 60 items an hour. The average time to go out on delivery is 9am at my office on a Saturday so I'm guessing with no prep then Saturday drivers will be out closer to 8am otherwise it will be impossible to complete.
They always assume it take’s less time than it actually does. Underestimation of time to deliver and also the volume of 2c mail, is built into the new Pilot method.
Why would 2C come into it on a Saturday? There won't be any 2C delivered on a Saturday.
I was making a general comment about the Pilot as you well know
However, I suspect 2c will indeed come into play on a Saturday in order to clear it.
If the 2C does end up coming into play on a Saturday when instead of holding all the 2C on a Friday night, the system will release it as normal so in theory you could get some Saturdays where you get 2-3 boxes, may 4-5 for busier walks, perhaps even six for the odd walk of mech
That sounds as joyous as I’m imaging the Pilot to be.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
So do the Saturday postie has to take parcels over two duties plus 1C or two posties share a van and take parcels over 4 duties and 1C?
Either way tracked will ALWAYS come first in the manager's eyes. For example if you have 4 hours on a Saturday to deliver 200 parcels off both duties (tracked and non tracked) plus 50 first class letters, 5 specials, 2 collection boxes and a customer collection that is about 60 items an hour. The average time to go out on delivery is 9am at my office on a Saturday so I'm guessing with no prep then Saturday drivers will be out closer to 8am otherwise it will be impossible to complete.
They always assume it take’s less time than it actually does. Underestimation of time to deliver and also the volume of 2c mail, is built into the new Pilot method.
Why would 2C come into it on a Saturday? There won't be any 2C delivered on a Saturday.
I was making a general comment about the Pilot as you well know
However, I suspect 2c will indeed come into play on a Saturday in order to clear it.
If the 2C does end up coming into play on a Saturday when instead of holding all the 2C on a Friday night, the system will release it as normal so in theory you could get some Saturdays where you get 2-3 boxes, may 4-5 for busier walks, perhaps even six for the odd walk of mech
That sounds as joyous as I’m imaging the Pilot to be.
Even before the pilot, there's been days when I've been boxing up a batch where a couple of the walks get 3 boxes, the odd one gets 4 boxes and that's without extra 2C being held. I think it's quite possible that the batches that get a lot of boxes now might end up having to be split into two batches, that is if they can find enough room on the sort plans on the iLSM for an extra stacker on the iLSM per new batch created.
So do the Saturday postie has to take parcels over two duties plus 1C or two posties share a van and take parcels over 4 duties and 1C?
Either way tracked will ALWAYS come first in the manager's eyes. For example if you have 4 hours on a Saturday to deliver 200 parcels off both duties (tracked and non tracked) plus 50 first class letters, 5 specials, 2 collection boxes and a customer collection that is about 60 items an hour. The average time to go out on delivery is 9am at my office on a Saturday so I'm guessing with no prep then Saturday drivers will be out closer to 8am otherwise it will be impossible to complete.
They always assume it take’s less time than it actually does. Underestimation of time to deliver and also the volume of 2c mail, is built into the new Pilot method.
Why would 2C come into it on a Saturday? There won't be any 2C delivered on a Saturday.
I was making a general comment about the Pilot as you well know
However, I suspect 2c will indeed come into play on a Saturday in order to clear it.
If the 2C does end up coming into play on a Saturday when instead of holding all the 2C on a Friday night, the system will release it as normal so in theory you could get some Saturdays where you get 2-3 boxes, may 4-5 for busier walks, perhaps even six for the odd walk of mech
That sounds as joyous as I’m imaging the Pilot to be.
Even before the pilot, there's been days when I've been boxing up a batch where a couple of the walks get 3 boxes, the odd one gets 4 boxes and that's without extra 2C being held. I think it's quite possible that the batches that get a lot of boxes now might end up having to be split into two batches, that is if they can find enough room on the sort plans on the iLSM for an extra stacker on the iLSM per new batch created.
And they won't be allowed out of the office until 3pm on a Saturday eh SP?
So do the Saturday postie has to take parcels over two duties plus 1C or two posties share a van and take parcels over 4 duties and 1C?
Either way tracked will ALWAYS come first in the manager's eyes. For example if you have 4 hours on a Saturday to deliver 200 parcels off both duties (tracked and non tracked) plus 50 first class letters, 5 specials, 2 collection boxes and a customer collection that is about 60 items an hour. The average time to go out on delivery is 9am at my office on a Saturday so I'm guessing with no prep then Saturday drivers will be out closer to 8am otherwise it will be impossible to complete.
They always assume it take’s less time than it actually does. Underestimation of time to deliver and also the volume of 2c mail, is built into the new Pilot method.
Why would 2C come into it on a Saturday? There won't be any 2C delivered on a Saturday.
I was making a general comment about the Pilot as you well know
However, I suspect 2c will indeed come into play on a Saturday in order to clear it.
If the 2C does end up coming into play on a Saturday when instead of holding all the 2C on a Friday night, the system will release it as normal so in theory you could get some Saturdays where you get 2-3 boxes, may 4-5 for busier walks, perhaps even six for the odd walk of mech
That sounds as joyous as I’m imaging the Pilot to be.
Even before the pilot, there's been days when I've been boxing up a batch where a couple of the walks get 3 boxes, the odd one gets 4 boxes and that's without extra 2C being held. I think it's quite possible that the batches that get a lot of boxes now might end up having to be split into two batches, that is if they can find enough room on the sort plans on the iLSM for an extra stacker on the iLSM per new batch created.
And they won't be allowed out of the office until 3pm on a Saturday eh SP?
Any over capacity will just be sent out to the DOs as manual so we can make the dispatch times. Any 2C the system releases on days when it's not supposed to will be sent to the DOs. Once it's loaded onto the lorry, it ain't our problem
So do the Saturday postie has to take parcels over two duties plus 1C or two posties share a van and take parcels over 4 duties and 1C?
Either way tracked will ALWAYS come first in the manager's eyes. For example if you have 4 hours on a Saturday to deliver 200 parcels off both duties (tracked and non tracked) plus 50 first class letters, 5 specials, 2 collection boxes and a customer collection that is about 60 items an hour. The average time to go out on delivery is 9am at my office on a Saturday so I'm guessing with no prep then Saturday drivers will be out closer to 8am otherwise it will be impossible to complete.
They always assume it take’s less time than it actually does. Underestimation of time to deliver and also the volume of 2c mail, is built into the new Pilot method.
Why would 2C come into it on a Saturday? There won't be any 2C delivered on a Saturday.
I was making a general comment about the Pilot as you well know
However, I suspect 2c will indeed come into play on a Saturday in order to clear it.
If the 2C does end up coming into play on a Saturday when instead of holding all the 2C on a Friday night, the system will release it as normal so in theory you could get some Saturdays where you get 2-3 boxes, may 4-5 for busier walks, perhaps even six for the odd walk of mech
That sounds as joyous as I’m imaging the Pilot to be.
Even before the pilot, there's been days when I've been boxing up a batch where a couple of the walks get 3 boxes, the odd one gets 4 boxes and that's without extra 2C being held. I think it's quite possible that the batches that get a lot of boxes now might end up having to be split into two batches, that is if they can find enough room on the sort plans on the iLSM for an extra stacker on the iLSM per new batch created.
And they won't be allowed out of the office until 3pm on a Saturday eh SP?
Any over capacity will just be sent out to the DOs as manual so we can make the dispatch times. Any 2C the system releases on days when it's not supposed to will be sent to the DOs. Once it's loaded onto the lorry, it ain't our problem
And if it's sent through as manual it will be sent back to the mail centre to redo. 2 can play that game.
So do the Saturday postie has to take parcels over two duties plus 1C or two posties share a van and take parcels over 4 duties and 1C?
Either way tracked will ALWAYS come first in the manager's eyes. For example if you have 4 hours on a Saturday to deliver 200 parcels off both duties (tracked and non tracked) plus 50 first class letters, 5 specials, 2 collection boxes and a customer collection that is about 60 items an hour. The average time to go out on delivery is 9am at my office on a Saturday so I'm guessing with no prep then Saturday drivers will be out closer to 8am otherwise it will be impossible to complete.
They always assume it take’s less time than it actually does. Underestimation of time to deliver and also the volume of 2c mail, is built into the new Pilot method.
Why would 2C come into it on a Saturday? There won't be any 2C delivered on a Saturday.
I was making a general comment about the Pilot as you well know
However, I suspect 2c will indeed come into play on a Saturday in order to clear it.
If the 2C does end up coming into play on a Saturday when instead of holding all the 2C on a Friday night, the system will release it as normal so in theory you could get some Saturdays where you get 2-3 boxes, may 4-5 for busier walks, perhaps even six for the odd walk of mech
That sounds as joyous as I’m imaging the Pilot to be.
Even before the pilot, there's been days when I've been boxing up a batch where a couple of the walks get 3 boxes, the odd one gets 4 boxes and that's without extra 2C being held. I think it's quite possible that the batches that get a lot of boxes now might end up having to be split into two batches, that is if they can find enough room on the sort plans on the iLSM for an extra stacker on the iLSM per new batch created.
And they won't be allowed out of the office until 3pm on a Saturday eh SP?
Any over capacity will just be sent out to the DOs as manual so we can make the dispatch times. Any 2C the system releases on days when it's not supposed to will be sent to the DOs. Once it's loaded onto the lorry, it ain't our problem
And if it's sent through as manual it will be sent back to the mail centre to redo. 2 can play that game.
And it'll be sent straight back to the DO. Your alternative is we make the dispatch times a good hour later to give time to run any excess in another hit.
So do the Saturday postie has to take parcels over two duties plus 1C or two posties share a van and take parcels over 4 duties and 1C?
Either way tracked will ALWAYS come first in the manager's eyes. For example if you have 4 hours on a Saturday to deliver 200 parcels off both duties (tracked and non tracked) plus 50 first class letters, 5 specials, 2 collection boxes and a customer collection that is about 60 items an hour. The average time to go out on delivery is 9am at my office on a Saturday so I'm guessing with no prep then Saturday drivers will be out closer to 8am otherwise it will be impossible to complete.
They always assume it take’s less time than it actually does. Underestimation of time to deliver and also the volume of 2c mail, is built into the new Pilot method.
Why would 2C come into it on a Saturday? There won't be any 2C delivered on a Saturday.
I was making a general comment about the Pilot as you well know
However, I suspect 2c will indeed come into play on a Saturday in order to clear it.
If the 2C does end up coming into play on a Saturday when instead of holding all the 2C on a Friday night, the system will release it as normal so in theory you could get some Saturdays where you get 2-3 boxes, may 4-5 for busier walks, perhaps even six for the odd walk of mech
That sounds as joyous as I’m imaging the Pilot to be.
Even before the pilot, there's been days when I've been boxing up a batch where a couple of the walks get 3 boxes, the odd one gets 4 boxes and that's without extra 2C being held. I think it's quite possible that the batches that get a lot of boxes now might end up having to be split into two batches, that is if they can find enough room on the sort plans on the iLSM for an extra stacker on the iLSM per new batch created.
And they won't be allowed out of the office until 3pm on a Saturday eh SP?
Any over capacity will just be sent out to the DOs as manual so we can make the dispatch times. Any 2C the system releases on days when it's not supposed to will be sent to the DOs. Once it's loaded onto the lorry, it ain't our problem
And if it's sent through as manual it will be sent back to the mail centre to redo. 2 can play that game.
And it'll be sent straight back to the DO. Your alternative is we make the dispatch times a good hour later to give time to run any excess in another hit.
Except that it doesn't, we've done it before and we'll do it again.
So do the Saturday postie has to take parcels over two duties plus 1C or two posties share a van and take parcels over 4 duties and 1C?
Either way tracked will ALWAYS come first in the manager's eyes. For example if you have 4 hours on a Saturday to deliver 200 parcels off both duties (tracked and non tracked) plus 50 first class letters, 5 specials, 2 collection boxes and a customer collection that is about 60 items an hour. The average time to go out on delivery is 9am at my office on a Saturday so I'm guessing with no prep then Saturday drivers will be out closer to 8am otherwise it will be impossible to complete.
They always assume it take’s less time than it actually does. Underestimation of time to deliver and also the volume of 2c mail, is built into the new Pilot method.
Why would 2C come into it on a Saturday? There won't be any 2C delivered on a Saturday.
I was making a general comment about the Pilot as you well know
However, I suspect 2c will indeed come into play on a Saturday in order to clear it.
If the 2C does end up coming into play on a Saturday when instead of holding all the 2C on a Friday night, the system will release it as normal so in theory you could get some Saturdays where you get 2-3 boxes, may 4-5 for busier walks, perhaps even six for the odd walk of mech
That sounds as joyous as I’m imaging the Pilot to be.
Even before the pilot, there's been days when I've been boxing up a batch where a couple of the walks get 3 boxes, the odd one gets 4 boxes and that's without extra 2C being held. I think it's quite possible that the batches that get a lot of boxes now might end up having to be split into two batches, that is if they can find enough room on the sort plans on the iLSM for an extra stacker on the iLSM per new batch created.
And they won't be allowed out of the office until 3pm on a Saturday eh SP?
Any over capacity will just be sent out to the DOs as manual so we can make the dispatch times. Any 2C the system releases on days when it's not supposed to will be sent to the DOs. Once it's loaded onto the lorry, it ain't our problem
And if it's sent through as manual it will be sent back to the mail centre to redo. 2 can play that game.
And it'll be sent straight back to the DO. Your alternative is we make the dispatch times a good hour later to give time to run any excess in another hit.
Except that it doesn't, we've done it before and we'll do it again.
Sending it back won't make it be run, it'll just be sent back. Early shift don't have many CSS trained staff anymore and with our late 2C dispatch having been axed during the last network review, they have to give priority to the 2C. There's a cut off point during the day after which no sequencing can be done as it'll mess up the DTS data.
So do the Saturday postie has to take parcels over two duties plus 1C or two posties share a van and take parcels over 4 duties and 1C?
Either way tracked will ALWAYS come first in the manager's eyes. For example if you have 4 hours on a Saturday to deliver 200 parcels off both duties (tracked and non tracked) plus 50 first class letters, 5 specials, 2 collection boxes and a customer collection that is about 60 items an hour. The average time to go out on delivery is 9am at my office on a Saturday so I'm guessing with no prep then Saturday drivers will be out closer to 8am otherwise it will be impossible to complete.
They always assume it take’s less time than it actually does. Underestimation of time to deliver and also the volume of 2c mail, is built into the new Pilot method.
Why would 2C come into it on a Saturday? There won't be any 2C delivered on a Saturday.
I was making a general comment about the Pilot as you well know
However, I suspect 2c will indeed come into play on a Saturday in order to clear it.
If the 2C does end up coming into play on a Saturday when instead of holding all the 2C on a Friday night, the system will release it as normal so in theory you could get some Saturdays where you get 2-3 boxes, may 4-5 for busier walks, perhaps even six for the odd walk of mech
That sounds as joyous as I’m imaging the Pilot to be.
Even before the pilot, there's been days when I've been boxing up a batch where a couple of the walks get 3 boxes, the odd one gets 4 boxes and that's without extra 2C being held. I think it's quite possible that the batches that get a lot of boxes now might end up having to be split into two batches, that is if they can find enough room on the sort plans on the iLSM for an extra stacker on the iLSM per new batch created.
And they won't be allowed out of the office until 3pm on a Saturday eh SP?
Any over capacity will just be sent out to the DOs as manual so we can make the dispatch times. Any 2C the system releases on days when it's not supposed to will be sent to the DOs. Once it's loaded onto the lorry, it ain't our problem
And if it's sent through as manual it will be sent back to the mail centre to redo. 2 can play that game.
And it'll be sent straight back to the DO. Your alternative is we make the dispatch times a good hour later to give time to run any excess in another hit.
Except that it doesn't, we've done it before and we'll do it again.
Sending it back won't make it be run, it'll just be sent back. Early shift don't have many CSS trained staff anymore and with our late 2C dispatch having been axed during the last network review, they have to give priority to the 2C. There's a cut off point during the day after which no sequencing can be done as it'll mess up the DTS data.
So do the Saturday postie has to take parcels over two duties plus 1C or two posties share a van and take parcels over 4 duties and 1C?
Either way tracked will ALWAYS come first in the manager's eyes. For example if you have 4 hours on a Saturday to deliver 200 parcels off both duties (tracked and non tracked) plus 50 first class letters, 5 specials, 2 collection boxes and a customer collection that is about 60 items an hour. The average time to go out on delivery is 9am at my office on a Saturday so I'm guessing with no prep then Saturday drivers will be out closer to 8am otherwise it will be impossible to complete.
They always assume it take’s less time than it actually does. Underestimation of time to deliver and also the volume of 2c mail, is built into the new Pilot method.
Why would 2C come into it on a Saturday? There won't be any 2C delivered on a Saturday.
I was making a general comment about the Pilot as you well know
However, I suspect 2c will indeed come into play on a Saturday in order to clear it.
If the 2C does end up coming into play on a Saturday when instead of holding all the 2C on a Friday night, the system will release it as normal so in theory you could get some Saturdays where you get 2-3 boxes, may 4-5 for busier walks, perhaps even six for the odd walk of mech
That sounds as joyous as I’m imaging the Pilot to be.
Even before the pilot, there's been days when I've been boxing up a batch where a couple of the walks get 3 boxes, the odd one gets 4 boxes and that's without extra 2C being held. I think it's quite possible that the batches that get a lot of boxes now might end up having to be split into two batches, that is if they can find enough room on the sort plans on the iLSM for an extra stacker on the iLSM per new batch created.
And they won't be allowed out of the office until 3pm on a Saturday eh SP?
Any over capacity will just be sent out to the DOs as manual so we can make the dispatch times. Any 2C the system releases on days when it's not supposed to will be sent to the DOs. Once it's loaded onto the lorry, it ain't our problem
And if it's sent through as manual it will be sent back to the mail centre to redo. 2 can play that game.
And it'll be sent straight back to the DO. Your alternative is we make the dispatch times a good hour later to give time to run any excess in another hit.
Except that it doesn't, we've done it before and we'll do it again.
Sending it back won't make it be run, it'll just be sent back. Early shift don't have many CSS trained staff anymore and with our late 2C dispatch having been axed during the last network review, they have to give priority to the 2C. There's a cut off point during the day after which no sequencing can be done as it'll mess up the DTS data.
Too much of a computer says no attitude
If the DTS data gets corrupted then the CSS have to sequence everything with 1C and 2C going out together. There's still the same capacity issues, which become worse if the DTS has to be turned off. With the DTS on somewhere between 25-50% of mail gets deferred so that's 25-50% less mail for the other two passes
I hope you two are going to donate some money to the site to pay for the bandwidth you are using up?
Wouldn't be as bad if any of the replies actually added something to the conversation but oh no it's descended to the default you'll get it later/you'll get it as manual
