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RMCtv: More reward for more change - A new two-year offer worth 9%

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Napmost
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Re: RMCtv: More reward for more change - A new two-year offer worth 9%

Post by Napmost »

9% sounds nice until you break it down, it’s less than 3.5% for this year (2% from April already imposed plus 5/12ths of 3.5%, assuming that we agreed it straightaway) a one off 2% bung and 1.5% next year (let’s just hope that inflation is negative next year). No thanks Simon, try listening harder.
Ddarko85
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Re: RMCtv: More reward for more change - A new two-year offer worth 9%

Post by Ddarko85 »

That is actually an awful offer. Not even one where you consider it slightly.
gb93
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Re: RMCtv: More reward for more change - A new two-year offer worth 9%

Post by gb93 »

Is this an own goal after the union taking stick for yesterday's announcement & being on back foot with quite a few members.
Or an act of genius from RM to hammer home their perceived advantage from the rolling strikes being cancelled.
This ain't no baseball game, you get only one chance and you blew it.
Rommagic
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Re: RMCtv: More reward for more change - A new two-year offer worth 9%

Post by Rommagic »

They took the 2 per cent back off us last August.
needadvice
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Re: RMCtv: More reward for more change - A new two-year offer worth 9%

Post by needadvice »

This isn't a serious offer. It's a face saving offer. No serious offers will be made. That is not his goal
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Re: RMCtv: More reward for more change - A new two-year offer worth 9%

Post by twoloops »

Spin on it 🖕
drfeelgood
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Re: RMCtv: More reward for more change - A new two-year offer worth 9%

Post by drfeelgood »

fezza34 wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 15:02
Just wow -
Yes, it is a big WOW!

What they want to do is introduce new people on new terms and conditions which are effectively a self employed status ie own van, ie thereby, Royal Mail wont have the upfront van contracts with their van suppliers, they wont have the fleet maintenance and MOT costs as it will be your responsibility to provide and look after your van at your own cost, the same as happens with Evri etc etc. Also, if you are self employed there will be no sickness pay, which takes this a stage further than what has already been mentioned on sick pay ie first 3 days etc. And you can forget any overtime as it will be your responsibility to deliver everything that comes in that particluar day. All this of course will massivley reduce costs for Royal Mail, up their profits, and increase shareholder payouts, but at a massive cost to a workforce who are being railroaded into everything Thomspon wants to do, in part due to a totally incompetent CWU!!

Truly shocking what Thompson has and is doing to Royal Mail, the jobs gone now, 8 days of strikes and lost pay, for what, sweet FA!
Dexydog
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Re: RMCtv: More reward for more change - A new two-year offer worth 9%

Post by Dexydog »

Napmost wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 16:09
9% sounds nice until you break it down, it’s less than 3.5% for this year (2% from April already imposed plus 5/12ths of 3.5%, assuming that we agreed it straightaway) a one off 2% bung and 1.5% next year (let’s just hope that inflation is negative next year). No thanks Simon, try listening harder.
Read what the offer is- the 2% bung is conditional upon a "successful revision", whatever that is.
And doesn't flow through to following uears.
This is a 7% offer over 2 years, with ambiguous conditions.
We've already had 2%, so work out how much extra you'll get after tax, over 2 years at 5%.
It's peanuts.
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sindba
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Re: RMCtv: More reward for more change - A new two-year offer worth 9%

Post by sindba »

"We have listened"

To who? The voices in your f*cking head? Coz you haven't listened to the workforce that earn your money for you, that's for sure.

Annualised hours? The abolition of finish times? The attack on sick workers?

Complete insult. Stick it where the sun don't shine. More strike dates please CWU.
Woody Guthrie
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Re: RMCtv: More reward for more change - A new two-year offer worth 9%

Post by Woody Guthrie »

Rommagic wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 16:11
They took the 2 per cent back off us last August.
No they didn't.
They just overcomplicated a simple process and made it look like they had.
They took back the "advance" but then they gave you the proper 2% back pay including allowances and overtime.
When I say proper who knows unless you have your own accountant but it was supposed to be proper.
Only dead fish follow the current
fallenworld2022
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Re: RMCtv: More reward for more change - A new two-year offer worth 9%

Post by fallenworld2022 »

im sorry but we know this offer isnt serious, he knows fine well only a mug would sign for this insulting offer. For a start im not wanting another resign, had about 3 in the last two years, need to be a table top revision with no resigning duties sack all that again, fightning to hold onto ur walk again no one wants that. Its a pay cut, its not 9 per cent, we already have 2 per cent and 1.5 is next to nothing, u wouldnt notice any sort of pay rise, just give us at least 2 grand lump sum for having to listen to this drivel. I think they should do the decent thing and stick to 2 year redundancy package of wages .
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Re: RMCtv: More reward for more change - A new two-year offer worth 9%

Post by CRIBMAD »

Evenflow10 wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 16:09
“We are standing on a burning platform.” I’d rather watch it burn than accept this ridiculous offer. Get December strike days announced and make one Christmas Eve so we can enjoy it, might be the last for a lot of us.
XMAS EVE IS A MUST FOR US ALL ! fook the company and the customers now
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Re: RMCtv: More reward for more change - A new two-year offer worth 9%

Post by richietns »

Its defo a no from me.
Gary55
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Re: RMCtv: More reward for more change - A new two-year offer worth 9%

Post by Gary55 »

CRIBMAD wrote:
31 Oct 2022, 15:55
SHOVE IT UP YOUR SPOTTY ARSE YOU INBRED !!
Hilarious. Cheered me up
bluempl
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Re: RMCtv: More reward for more change - A new two-year offer worth 9%

Post by bluempl »

Stick it where the sun don't shine Simon and get out of the company NOW before you do further irreparable damage