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Post by **nelly21** » 08 Feb 2018, 15:33

its a no from me

bobthepostie · Post by **bobthepostie** » 08 Feb 2018, 15:53

nelly21 wrote:its a no from me

And from me.

Spedley · Post by **Spedley** » 08 Feb 2018, 16:33

I was Yes but edging into No. Tbh the principle of the agreement seems ok but the details let it down badly.

daveyeff · Post by **daveyeff** » 08 Feb 2018, 16:38

as the saying goes... ''the devil is in the detail''

Post by **stodgy88** » 08 Feb 2018, 17:02

So in other words they are removing the enhancements from VRs and IHRs so you only receive a bare minimum.. 14 grand for redundancies and less for IHR

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Posts: 2712 thanks for explanation so if mechanism takes over , and thousands of bodies are surplass to requirements,how do they plan on getting shut of people if maximum for VR is £14000 ?

clashcityrocker · Post by **clashcityrocker** » 08 Feb 2018, 17:04

stodgy88 wrote:....how do they plan on getting shut of people if maximum for VR is £14000 ?

It is called compulsory redundancy.

Post by **stodgy88** » 08 Feb 2018, 17:25

not put that into equation,obviously union wont go along with that ,will no doubt get the strikes that some people are clambering for eventually

daveyeff · Post by **daveyeff** » 08 Feb 2018, 17:55

stodgy88 wrote:not put that into equation,obviously union wont go along with that ,will no doubt get the strikes that some people are clambering for eventually

well this is what some of us are asking, because this is IN the agreement on page 12. have the negotiators AGREED to this? it seems so because they are going to try and sell it to us!! still awaiting clarification from the hierarchy..... cant wait to here this one explained!!

yellowbelly · Post by **yellowbelly** » 09 Feb 2018, 09:28

How will the 'vote' be worded? Will it just be to accept/reject the proposals?

If the wording is to accept or reject the agreement (but not mentioning IA) are the ballot percentage thresholds different to what
is required in a vote for IA?

What would the percentages be in terms of eligible voters voting for the result to be valid and of those voting required to accept?

I'm thinking that there will be a lot of apathy in offices now and just want the whole thing to go away

and just won't be
arsed to vote......

Celgar · Post by **Celgar** » 11 Feb 2018, 09:46

stodgy88 wrote:not put that into equation,obviously union wont go along with that ,will no doubt get the strikes that some people are clambering for eventually

I think the vast majority of us really do not want to go on strike but RM are not being 'fair'(I hate that word.)and they have pushed us too far now. So many companies have been exposed in the media and on TV for bad employment practices. I don't wish it on RM but it probably isn't far off if they don't wake up and smell the coffee.

Celgar · Post by **Celgar** » 11 Feb 2018, 09:50

yellowbelly wrote:How will the 'vote' be worded? Will it just be to accept/reject the proposals?

If the wording is to accept or reject the agreement (but not mentioning IA) are the ballot percentage thresholds different to what
is required in a vote for IA?

What would the percentages be in terms of eligible voters voting for the result to be valid and of those voting required to accept?

I'm thinking that there will be a lot of apathy in offices now and just want the whole thing to go away and just won't be
arsed to vote......

As with other elections and votes in this country and others it could go either way and the turnout could be massive or miniscule. I won't be surprised whatever happens. The likelihood is that posties won't back what they feel about the situation and will vote Yes instead.

venom · Post by **venom** » 14 Feb 2018, 15:58

where can i read the full agreement

yellowbelly · Post by **yellowbelly** » 14 Feb 2018, 16:47

venom wrote:where can i read the full agreement

Really?

LTB 059/18

https://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communi ... 62&t=83980" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

venom · Post by **venom** » 14 Feb 2018, 17:43

yellowbelly wrote:
venom wrote:where can i read the full agreement
Really?

LTB 059/18

https://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communi ... 62&t=83980" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

cheers will have a read