fishtank wrote:It might surprise you to know this gb but i actually like the idea of CDV's,two in a van and park&loop.
I've carried a bag long enough,my knees are shot and i'm not getting any younger.
I do,however fear the longer delivery spans and half-assed implementation that comes with it.
Complete agreement on this post Fish.
However you seemed to have glossed over the 2 biggest dangers of CDV, working with someone who has BO & the problem someone has to drive them
Two reasons enough to scrap the whole thing.
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taurus88 wrote:I don't care about the mail being heavy, it's the f*cking packets that kill me. I'm thinking of chucking them in a separate bag and leaving them until I've done all the mail, then just popping along the route in the car and getting them all done.
Sure to be well recieved on here
Could be the ideal solution to halting them baby killing CDVs
It's a great idea gb ...why not take your bags out yourself while your at it? ....and throw your D2D in the boot so you can make it up while you're watching Corrie. Actually it'll save even more time if you just bin the D2D.
It makes the job so much easier...and let's face it that's all that matters.
Eh?
I drive to my delivery, I don't take my bags out with me, they go with the van man. I have to pick each of them up from a local business (crap drop off point as it's impossible to make it run around one focus point). I take my break and I finish around about 1.35pm every day. That I use the car to get there is just so that I have somewhere to go and sit down and eat my lunch. I could use a bike but I don't like them and know I wouldn't abide by the H&S. The walk is too close for a van according to that stupid chart.
Seeing as I do the job as properly as I can, how I do the packets is up to moi.
taurus88 wrote:
Seeing as I do the job as properly as I can, how I do the packets is up to moi.
Firstly the post was tongue in cheek and directed at gb not you personally.
Secondly if you deliver the packets from your car a la Mr White Van Man your insurance is null&void and if you got caught,not only would you face a fine and possible ban for having no valid insurance...you would most likely lose your job..but like you say it's up to you.
The walk is too close for a van according to that stupid chart.
What does that mean?
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been. My BFF Clash The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
Yes, according to the chart, vans are for walks 1 mile or more from the office. However, this is all an irrelevance as I now use a bike on my round. I sometimes take the packets last on a heavy day as my walk is quite circular - it only takes five minutes and can be a lot easier than lugging everything around with you.
Unless IB can deal in the untangling of anachronisms, I'm going to be fine. Hint: read all posts, past and present, to build up a proper picture of the present situation. Seeing as everyone in my office uses their own car (literally), I'm now one of the few people who can claim to be doing the job within the proper bounds as I am using my bicycle.
Yep whatever , but just a word to the wise, IB have no interest in anachronisms or what anyone else does, the rules is the rules ,circumstances or extenuating s**t will play no part in the judgement. Flexible working might be the latest buzzword ,but it only works one way ,and it does not apply to security or standards ,so be very very careful
Back in 1989, I took out two bags on the first delivery and two bundles on the second. Now I go out with 6 or 7 bags per day regulary.
Our packet bag would one or two items in it, now I have two full grey sacks off the frame!
Who do they think they're kidding saying volumes are falling, 'my arse!'
BELIAL wrote:Not a valid defence ,I'm sorry. We've all got targets
Ignorantia juris non excusat - I wonder how many realise that its true.
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BELIAL wrote:Not a valid defence ,I'm sorry. We've all got targets
I have nothing to answer for, I've broken no rule or regulation in the past two months, and before that I broke no rule that everyone else in the office has not been breaking a hundred times over - with the managers not only condoning it by their silence, but positively encouraging it. Our office is a mess. I do the job as properly as I can every day which is the most any good postman can do. I don't care about anyone else, and if I encounter IB, they shall find my standards are exceedingly high and be sent on their merry way.
BELIAL wrote:Not a valid defence ,I'm sorry. We've all got targets
I have nothing to answer for, I've broken no rule or regulation in the past two months, and before that I broke no rule that everyone else in the office has not been breaking a hundred times over - with the managers not only condoning it by their silence, but positively encouraging it. Our office is a mess. I do the job as properly as I can every day which is the most any good postman can do. I don't care about anyone else, and if I encounter IB, they shall find my standards are exceedingly high and be sent on their merry way.
Not if you're delivering packets from the back of your car.
It will be you that's sent on your merry way and claiming that everyone else does it won't wash because your manager will obviously deny it and none of your colleagues will confess to breaching the security agreement either.
So.....your protestations of common practice will simply look like sour grapes.
Yep whatever , but just a word to the wise, IB have no interest in anachronisms or what anyone else does, the rules is the rules ,circumstances or extenuating s**t will play no part in the judgement. Flexible working might be the latest buzzword ,but it only works one way ,and it does not apply to security or standards ,so be very very careful 