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Universally challenged

Postal workers discussion forum. Discuss the day to day life in a Blue Shirt.
Pfrizzy10
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Re: Universally challenged

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Why do people care if it works or not? :roll:
We still get paid
Gary55
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Re: Universally challenged

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They will blame people for nor achieving a supposedly fair work load probably discipline or sack a few. End result climate of fear people will panic rush round and come in early and go without a meal relief as usual. Then they will target the people doing the job properly as obviously they'll be behind the panicking fuckwits . All with the blessings of the union. But at least people will learn to finish or have a world of s**t reigned upon them
Pfrizzy10
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Re: Universally challenged

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Gary55 wrote:
02 May 2026, 14:47
They will blame people for nor achieving a supposedly fair work load probably discipline or sack a few. End result climate of fear people will panic rush round and come in early and go without a meal relief as usual. Then they will target the people doing the job properly as obviously they'll be behind the panicking fuckwits . All with the blessings of the union. But at least people will learn to finish or have a world of s**t reigned upon them
No grounds to sack you if you are doing what you should be doing. Also, the halfwits are coming in early and rushing around already. They have been doing it for years. They won’t stop
Wullie10
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Re: Universally challenged

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There has and still is institutional bullying in RM . Some is well documented. Some of it quite horrendous. Its all very well sitting behind a keyboard being a strong man , but how many are willing to stand up and speak out against it ? Ill tell you the answer. Very very few. Not everyone is strong and willing to face a bully especially when they have zero support from their colleagues. They aren't all halfwits. The halfwits are the cowards who stand and watch it happen , then turn away and look after themselves.
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Re: Universally challenged

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Gary55 wrote:
02 May 2026, 14:47
They will blame people for nor achieving a supposedly fair work load probably discipline or sack a few. End result climate of fear people will panic rush round and come in early and go without a meal relief as usual. Then they will target the people doing the job properly as obviously they'll be behind the panicking fuckwits . All with the blessings of the union. But at least people will learn to finish or have a world of s**t reigned upon them
There will be nobody left to do the job if they sack people, its already a revolving door of new starters as of now
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Re: Universally challenged

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Mr Rush wrote:
01 May 2026, 22:35
qwerty2 wrote:
01 May 2026, 20:07
How do you do the D2Ds?
Per theory, they'll all be prepped on Saturday and then the hike in callrates will clear them in two warm passes.
But at least one frame will still be full of mail, the one that was on‘light’ on Friday? And chances of the heavy being cleared are not looking great
roomintheback
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Re: Universally challenged

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Hi everyone, what does the term "call rate" mean? Thanking you in advance.
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Re: Universally challenged

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roomintheback wrote:
02 May 2026, 19:51
Hi everyone, what does the term "call rate" mean? Thanking you in advance.

Prepping your letters in the frame. Count how many letters (delivery points) cover the first 100 addresses. If it's 33 then your call rate is 33% and you will visit 1 in 3 houses.

I hope this makes sense.
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Re: Universally challenged

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roomintheback wrote:
02 May 2026, 19:51
Hi everyone, what does the term "call rate" mean? Thanking you in advance.
The percentage of actual addresses you go to.

If you deliver to 150 addresses out of 600 that’s a 25% call rate.
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Thommo44 wrote:
02 May 2026, 19:12


But at least one frame will still be full of mail, the one that was on‘light’ on Friday? And chances of the heavy being cleared are not looking great
I think the idea is that that mail won't have been prepped. It will lie around on the fitting waiting for Monday before it's prepped. Only the first class will be prepped on the 'light' routes on the day they are scheduled to be 'light'. So if Friday was light, that mail won't be prepped. So on Monday that walk will have Friday, Saturday and Monday non-1st class as well as Monday's 1st class.
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Re: Universally challenged

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DGH wrote:
02 May 2026, 20:22
Thommo44 wrote:
02 May 2026, 19:12


But at least one frame will still be full of mail, the one that was on‘light’ on Friday? And chances of the heavy being cleared are not looking great
I think the idea is that that mail won't have been prepped. It will lie around on the fitting waiting for Monday before it's prepped. Only the first class will be prepped on the 'light' routes on the day they are scheduled to be 'light'. So if Friday was light, that mail won't be prepped. So on Monday that walk will have Friday, Saturday and Monday non-1st class as well as Monday's 1st class.
From what we've been told, on a Thursday night the DTS will be releasing any 2C that has hit the time limit on the Thursday night and any mail that would have hit the time limit on the Friday night. You might well have two trays mech per walk come through for Friday delivery, with the very busy walks maybe having 3 trays.
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Re: Universally challenged

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SpacePhoenix wrote:
02 May 2026, 20:42
DGH wrote:
02 May 2026, 20:22
Thommo44 wrote:
02 May 2026, 19:12


But at least one frame will still be full of mail, the one that was on‘light’ on Friday? And chances of the heavy being cleared are not looking great
I think the idea is that that mail won't have been prepped. It will lie around on the fitting waiting for Monday before it's prepped. Only the first class will be prepped on the 'light' routes on the day they are scheduled to be 'light'. So if Friday was light, that mail won't be prepped. So on Monday that walk will have Friday, Saturday and Monday non-1st class as well as Monday's 1st class.
From what we've been told, on a Thursday night the DTS will be releasing any 2C that has hit the time limit on the Thursday night and any mail that would have hit the time limit on the Friday night. You might well have two trays mech per walk come through for Friday delivery, with the very busy walks maybe having 3 trays.
But but Martin says it's 1c only.....
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Re: Universally challenged

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From the original post


Why would staff vote yes and vote early on something that they don't fully understand and which hasn't been properly trialled and tested??

The USO trials wasn't exactly a roaring success, so what makes the DM26 any different? Putting in more walks isn't a silver bullet if they aren't fully staffed. You can't just rename things "heavy/light" and hope that it works. Any model which only has 3 people trying to cover 4 walks sounds like daily lapsing on steroids.

It's a very odd and chaotic way of working that RM are forcing us to do. Surely, if we are already walking the same loops and calling at the same addresses to deliver Tracked items then splitting the mail onto another day is merely duplicating the work and misallocating the workload rather than reducing it?

RM are trying to operate a sort of hybrid mess
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
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Re: Universally challenged

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Trying to paint over the fact that DK wants as many off the payroll as possible is all this is. Nobody is fooled. An absolutely complicated mess.
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Re: Universally challenged

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tramssirhc wrote:
02 May 2026, 22:00
SpacePhoenix wrote:
02 May 2026, 20:42
DGH wrote:
02 May 2026, 20:22
Thommo44 wrote:
02 May 2026, 19:12


But at least one frame will still be full of mail, the one that was on‘light’ on Friday? And chances of the heavy being cleared are not looking great
I think the idea is that that mail won't have been prepped. It will lie around on the fitting waiting for Monday before it's prepped. Only the first class will be prepped on the 'light' routes on the day they are scheduled to be 'light'. So if Friday was light, that mail won't be prepped. So on Monday that walk will have Friday, Saturday and Monday non-1st class as well as Monday's 1st class.
From what we've been told, on a Thursday night the DTS will be releasing any 2C that has hit the time limit on the Thursday night and any mail that would have hit the time limit on the Friday night. You might well have two trays mech per walk come through for Friday delivery, with the very busy walks maybe having 3 trays.
But but Martin says it's 1c only.....
He doesn't have any understanding of how the DTS works, once an item has hit the time limit it WILL get released. If there's a 2C item for a DP that is getting a 2C item released it WILL get released. If it's not released a day early on the Thursday for Friday delivery then it'll have to be released on the Friday for Saturday delivery otherwise it'll fail its spec.