Martin Walsh FB post on DM26

[Thommo44]

Can someone create a simple table with ODM on one side, DP26 on the other, and the difference between the two in the middle.

DM26 = Bad

ODM = Badder

I want to know what is going to happen in the office I work in and how it will change my working day, until each of us has that information I fail to see how you can be asked to vote

Fully agree, but I can’t see any difference. Some offices might not have any rounds added and no uplift to full time (probably an office with no representation and a regional representation who turns up twice a year)

[Perseus]

Am i right in saying,1 person will have to do all parcels and 1st class on 2 walks at some point during week…im guessing im not only one thats totally baffled

Not being funny, but hasn't your office had to do that at some point over the past 5-6 years? It's standard in ours when one half of a pairing has their day off. It's widespread across the country when offices are short staffed too. Whether there is enough time to complete the tracked and 1C is a different story (they say there will be), but the method itself has become pretty standardised in many areas.

[SpacePhoenix]

Can someone create a simple table with ODM on one side, DP26 on the other, and the difference between the two in the middle.

DM26 = Bad

ODM = Badder

I want to know what is going to happen in the office I work in and how it will change my working day, until each of us has that information I fail to see how you can be asked to vote

Fully agree, but I can’t see any difference. Some offices might not have any rounds added and no uplift to full time (probably an office with no representation and a regional representation who turns up twice a year)

Nationally what's the % of DOs who don't have a rep? The last time there was a poster on our union board that showed for every last union position in the area covered by the MC who held them positions, probably about 90% of the DOs didn't have a local rep.

[tramssirhc]

MW now suggesting that if we don't vote for DM26 then RM will impose ODM even though it apparently didn't work in the pilot offices!

"Ofcom changed the regulations for USO in July last year.
Our members are not voting on whether you will now be o delivering:

1st Class and parcels to every address Monday to Saturday. ( First class mail now accounts for 8% of total letters)

Or

That non priority mail including DSA , second class is delivered to an address every other day Monday to Friday. This means that an address receives a delivery of non priority mail 5 times over 10 days instead of the current 12 times over 12 days.

Our members are voting on whether it is best to introduce the change via the agreement we have reached or by Royal Mails preferred option the ODM.

The status quo is not on the table hence why Royal Mail activated the Dispute Resolution Process as they are currently operating outside of their USO licence.

The DM26 is a much better model than ODM. Several of the Original pilots performed heavy and light during the peak period and the reports were positive.

Explaining the 4 into 3 option.

Under the current USO method you deliver all mail Monday to Saturday whether a CDV pairing, singleton van, firms, rural or HCT.

Under ODM the CDV pairing delivered all mail Monday to Saturday but due to reduction in the amount of days an address receives a delivery of non priority mail then the call rate was much higher.

The singleton van did first class and combined for two walks.

A driver was not on a settled walk and rotated between the core and combined route. Non drivers had to do all mail Monday to Friday.

DM26 means that the CDV pairing is doing one duty as first class and parcels only and the other route all mail. This means their starting point is that they are delivering to less addresses than under the current USO and considerably less than ODM.

The singleton van duty could be performing the third duty again 50% first class and parcels and 50% all mail. Again their starting point is that they are performing less work under DM26 than the current USO and much less than ODM.

The fourth duty which may also be 50% first class and parcels and 50% all mail can then be either reallocated to the three other routes or they are supported by the following :

1. 3500 walks being reintroduced which if it was l averaged out across all units it would be an extra three walks per office. The cost of this is 94 million.

2. 10500 duties ( Rurals , Firms and HCTs will be switched to 50% first class parcels 50% all mail. This equates to 20% of the total walks in the UK. This means these duties will be delivering less work under this model than under the current USO and therefore can provide support for the 4 in 3 method.

3. Any duty which cannot complete under the current USO will have support and may also switch to 50/50.

4. There will be 6000 part time uplifts to full time to support the indoor to ensure duties get out on time.

5. The reduction in the number of Saturdays required at work along with a shorter Saturday will mean you have a slightly longer attendance Monday - Friday.

6. There is an extensive pre deployment plan where no unit can go live until you have full resourcing in place including full reserve levels along with an extensive list..

7. These will be shaped locally based on your own units specifics and needs overseen by the Regional Steering group which will include your Area Rep and Divisional Rep.

8. There is a mandatory review where no surplus of employees can be removed from a unit until it is achieving all the quality targets. This may mean extra duties or hours need to come back into the unit.

This is a far superior model with safeguards than ODM.

Equally there is a chance to end the chaos in far to many units where quality of service is sacrificed because Royal Mail are leaving vacancies in so many units."

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1JJ7tJdwHA/

Martin writes about 1st class mail when he knows full well that the daily workload is whatever needs to be delivered that day. Along with the rest of the full time official he is incredibly out of touch with our jobs. Martin simply doesn't understand what we do.

Martin's agreement has pushed the responsibility for changing the way we work down to the lowest level possible. The purpose of that is to prevent the CWU being blamed if the change does not work. All the reps have been told that this is the best that Martin and his mates can do. Or in other words if the members do not make the change work it will be our own fault. It's classic CWU. Ask BT members about their major changes over the years. They were told the same.

The CWU is about to be exposed. The decision to split the vote and isolate the post-22 Members is going to show the dire state of membership numbers, both pre-22 and post-22. Martin has authored the longest suicide note in history. The CWU is damaged beyond repair.

[Valentina@1]

Sadly all the above is true .

[mafiaman]

who has invented this way of working is it planners + mangers +cwu who have never completed a walk in the last 10 years or maybe never. You need current postpersons who know the job well..Not pencil pushers .The planners are going to come and force there methods for individual offices then only when it starts failing apart then ask the postperson after, they will just come in and rush everything through tick boxes and pat each other on there backs leave and let us pick up the pieces and if it fails we will get the blame .

[tramssirhc]

If any part of Martin's rambling start the alarm bells ringing this bit does:

'That non priority mail including DSA , second class is delivered to an address every other day Monday to Friday. This means that an address receives a delivery of non priority mail 5 times over 10 days instead of the current 12 times over 12 days'.

This is an oversimplification of the delivery profile. The span is 12 days and always will be 12 days. The workload will be everything that is due for delivery that day. That will include downstream access items. The idea that some items will be delayed to such an extent that Martin describes is untrue. This paragraph alone demonstrates that Martin does not fully understand what he's talking about.

[Thommo44]

Just a thought, without doing a proper revision in every office how do they know how many rounds are going back in and how many should be full time.
There’s got to be a calculation somewhere? If they have a number they must have a spreadsheet showing every office in the country. Publish this before the vote, show some transparency

[tramssirhc]

who has invented this way of working is it planners + mangers +cwu who have never completed a walk in the last 10 years or maybe never. You need current postpersons who know the job well..Not pencil pushers .The planners are going to come and force there methods for individual offices then only when it starts failing apart then ask the postperson after, they will just come in and rush everything through tick boxes and pat each other on there backs leave and let us pick up the pieces and if it fails we will get the blame .

There is absolutely no doubt that Martin and his mates will blame you if the change does not work. Your choice is to either stop bankrolling their cushy lives or to boot out every CWU rep who supports Martin and replace them with rank and file working class fighters.

[Rommagic]

They cant moan about letter volume drop the next ten years say as we all be doing 33 per cent more workload a day.

[SpacePhoenix]

If any part of Martin's rambling start the alarm bells ringing this bit does:

'That non priority mail including DSA , second class is delivered to an address every other day Monday to Friday. This means that an address receives a delivery of non priority mail 5 times over 10 days instead of the current 12 times over 12 days'.

This is an oversimplification of the delivery profile. The span is 12 days and always will be 12 days. The workload will be everything that is due for delivery that day. That will include downstream access items. The idea that some items will be delayed to such an extent that Martin describes is untrue. This paragraph alone demonstrates that Martin does not fully understand what he's talking about.

Does he even know about the 1C DSA product? I only found out about by accident, we've never had any official briefing about it.

[Rage24]

What is 50/50?

[ted_e_bear]

What is 50/50?

It's the routine that would apply to rurals, on alternating days mon-fri they deliver 50% everything and 50% parcels+1c

[Mr Rush]

Just a thought, without doing a proper revision in every office how do they know how many rounds are going back in and how many should be full time.
There’s got to be a calculation somewhere? If they have a number they must have a spreadsheet showing every office in the country. Publish this before the vote, show some transparency

There is certainly work afoot to reinstate duties, though in my own unit's case these are walks that ceased to exist three years ago on paper but nonetheless the frames have been there the entire time as if nothing happened. Which is a problem because then they aren't really being reinstated - that's just their documentation being amended to reflect the status quo ante DM26. If 2021 is being rolled back well then we're talking ten duties going back in for a total of eighty one.

Mad people in cars & scooters and bikes and their own vans tearing around and breaking the law all for 50p a parcel.

Something I was thinking about today: We're owned by private equity. Evri is owned by private equity.

[60091]

I know its a pain but the outcome for me is i keep my 4 day week and others keep there Wallingtons!!!

You know that for certain?

I've told there keeping them I've been doing them for the last 13 years as hybrid rural/collections 26 years in