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Job and Finish

Postal workers discussion forum. Discuss the day to day life in a Blue Shirt.
Tman
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Re: Job and Finish

Post by Tman »

geordieboy123 wrote:
19 Apr 2026, 18:03
Maybe but they probably have work up to their finish time I’m talking about the office being totally clear of work and we’re just standing around waiting to log out on our pda’s
Not quite getting the concept of being on the clock, are you?
geordieboy123
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Re: Job and Finish

Post by geordieboy123 »

Tman wrote:
20 Apr 2026, 18:00
geordieboy123 wrote:
19 Apr 2026, 18:03
Maybe but they probably have work up to their finish time I’m talking about the office being totally clear of work and we’re just standing around waiting to log out on our pda’s
Not quite getting the concept of being on the clock, are you?
There’s no need for your rudeness mate, ever since we’ve been required to log in and out we’ve been allowed to go home but this new manager has stopped it stating that there’s no office in the country that doesn’t work to time, I was just trying to find out if that was true.
Perseus
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Re: Job and Finish

Post by Perseus »

geordieboy123 wrote:
20 Apr 2026, 18:24
Tman wrote:
20 Apr 2026, 18:00
geordieboy123 wrote:
19 Apr 2026, 18:03
Maybe but they probably have work up to their finish time I’m talking about the office being totally clear of work and we’re just standing around waiting to log out on our pda’s
Not quite getting the concept of being on the clock, are you?
There’s no need for your rudeness mate, ever since we’ve been required to log in and out we’ve been allowed to go home but this new manager has stopped it stating that there’s no office in the country that doesn’t work to time, I was just trying to find out if that was true.
It won't feel like it, but this new COM will be doing you a favour as he's probably protecting his office budget.
qwerty2
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Gender: Male

Re: Job and Finish

Post by qwerty2 »

geordieboy123 wrote:
20 Apr 2026, 18:24
Tman wrote:
20 Apr 2026, 18:00
geordieboy123 wrote:
19 Apr 2026, 18:03
Maybe but they probably have work up to their finish time I’m talking about the office being totally clear of work and we’re just standing around waiting to log out on our pda’s
Not quite getting the concept of being on the clock, are you?
There’s no need for your rudeness mate, ever since we’ve been required to log in and out we’ve been allowed to go home but this new manager has stopped it stating that there’s no office in the country that doesn’t work to time, I was just trying to find out if that was true.
Not true - your manager is talking bull💩
funkflex55
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Re: Job and Finish

Post by funkflex55 »

Reading this thread it seems there's a big disparity between office rules and also office workloads/work completion.

RM need to recognise this and make savings where it is actually possible instead of targeting every office, as we know a lot of them are completely f****d and any more cuts would just leave them even more fuckered.

There should never be blanket approaches when lots of basic company policies are not in place in all offices.
TopperGas
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Re: Job and Finish

Post by TopperGas »

funkflex55 wrote:
20 Apr 2026, 19:14
Reading this thread it seems there's a big disparity between office rules and also office workloads/work completion.

RM need to recognise this and make savings where it is actually possible instead of targeting every office, as we know a lot of them are completely f****d and any more cuts would just leave them even more fuckered.

There should never be blanket approaches when lots of basic company policies are not in place in all offices.
Agreed nobody on our office is allowed to scan out before the official end of duty time, if they do they are pulled up the following day.
citypostie
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Re: Job and Finish

Post by citypostie »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
19 Apr 2026, 21:29
gil wrote:
19 Apr 2026, 18:46
Will distribution now have to use SISO as they seem to still do job and finish
They should have started using it back when processing started using it.
Anyone driving 7.5t and above don't need to use siso because it's all recorded on the tacho, any managers can look at any drivers data with vision. The cards are downloaded every day at the end of the shift which is basically clocking out
SpacePhoenix
MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
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Re: Job and Finish

Post by SpacePhoenix »

citypostie wrote:
20 Apr 2026, 21:37
SpacePhoenix wrote:
19 Apr 2026, 21:29
gil wrote:
19 Apr 2026, 18:46
Will distribution now have to use SISO as they seem to still do job and finish
They should have started using it back when processing started using it.
Anyone driving 7.5t and above don't need to use siso because it's all recorded on the tacho, any managers can look at any drivers data with vision. The cards are downloaded every day at the end of the shift which is basically clocking out
All our Distribution drivers have to use SISO, they've even got their own SISO terminal
Sean06
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Re: Job and Finish

Post by Sean06 »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
20 Apr 2026, 21:56
citypostie wrote:
20 Apr 2026, 21:37
SpacePhoenix wrote:
19 Apr 2026, 21:29
gil wrote:
19 Apr 2026, 18:46
Will distribution now have to use SISO as they seem to still do job and finish
They should have started using it back when processing started using it.
Anyone driving 7.5t and above don't need to use siso because it's all recorded on the tacho, any managers can look at any drivers data with vision. The cards are downloaded every day at the end of the shift which is basically clocking out
All our Distribution drivers have to use SISO, they've even got their own SISO terminal
They don't in ours.
citypostie
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Re: Job and Finish

Post by citypostie »

Sean06 wrote:
20 Apr 2026, 22:05
SpacePhoenix wrote:
20 Apr 2026, 21:56
citypostie wrote:
20 Apr 2026, 21:37
SpacePhoenix wrote:
19 Apr 2026, 21:29
gil wrote:
19 Apr 2026, 18:46
Will distribution now have to use SISO as they seem to still do job and finish
They should have started using it back when processing started using it.
Anyone driving 7.5t and above don't need to use siso because it's all recorded on the tacho, any managers can look at any drivers data with vision. The cards are downloaded every day at the end of the shift which is basically clocking out
All our Distribution drivers have to use SISO, they've even got their own SISO terminal
They don't in ours.
We don't either, like I said the tacho has all the data on and we download the cards at the end of shifts , which shows when we've finished anyway. More reliable than the siso kit and shows the managers everything they need to know about our shifts including being legal with regards to driver hours and breaks taken
Beanyjazz
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Gender: Male

Re: Job and Finish

Post by Beanyjazz »

Sean06 wrote:
20 Apr 2026, 22:05
SpacePhoenix wrote:
20 Apr 2026, 21:56
citypostie wrote:
20 Apr 2026, 21:37
SpacePhoenix wrote:
19 Apr 2026, 21:29
gil wrote:
19 Apr 2026, 18:46
Will distribution now have to use SISO as they seem to still do job and finish
They should have started using it back when processing started using it.
Anyone driving 7.5t and above don't need to use siso because it's all recorded on the tacho, any managers can look at any drivers data with vision. The cards are downloaded every day at the end of the shift which is basically clocking out
All our Distribution drivers have to use SISO, they've even got their own SISO terminal
They don't in ours.
They don't in Manchester either, and it's a massive hub with loads of drivers. Last month a new manager tried to make it so an 8 hour overtime Sunday for example, they'd only pay them for what they did if they left after 6 hours, losing 2 hours.

Everybody scrubbed their name off overtime, rang managers and said 'not working this weekend' etc and within 24 hours it was back to job and finish (and still be paid the full hours). I'm glad for them.
Chelseablue
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Re: Job and Finish

Post by Chelseablue »

stevejm wrote:
20 Apr 2026, 15:10
Says you.

The reality is that any sensible manager is happy with the devil they know because the last 6-12 months it's a complete lottery when it comes to recruiting, let alone anyone half decent.
Sackable offence or suspended . Happened at ours
Tman
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Joined: 21 Oct 2007, 09:57

Re: Job and Finish

Post by Tman »

Beanyjazz wrote:
21 Apr 2026, 08:37
Last month a new manager tried to make it so an 8 hour overtime Sunday for example, they'd only pay them for what they did if they left after 6 hours, losing 2 hours.
Leaving early, the very thing SISO was supposed to stop.
Claiming for O/T not worked is a sackable offence.
Beanyjazz
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Re: Job and Finish

Post by Beanyjazz »

Tman wrote:
21 Apr 2026, 10:03
Beanyjazz wrote:
21 Apr 2026, 08:37
Last month a new manager tried to make it so an 8 hour overtime Sunday for example, they'd only pay them for what they did if they left after 6 hours, losing 2 hours.
Leaving early, the very thing SISO was supposed to stop.
Claiming for O/T not worked is a sackable offence.
Nothing is stopping RM from sacking all the C1/2 drivers and replacing them with agency staff which costs them far more, they're already understaffed as it is.

Also (if you read it) they tried to bring it in and everybody refused to do overtime, so RM have the option of doing either.

The ball is in RM's court, go get your licences and join them x
Tman
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Re: Job and Finish

Post by Tman »

I was talking about the SISO system generally, and nothing specific to drivers.