Negotiators agreement reached

[sindba]

I will wait and see.

But if it's not a big improvement on RM's last "offer" I will vote no.

[aiden01]

I will wait and see.

But if it's not a big improvement on RM's last "offer" I will vote no.

Are you really expecting a big improvement on last offer.

[sixfoottwo]

I can't see it being a good deal tbh but will wait and see, I'll be voting No if it's a s*** deal which I suspect it will be.

[sindba]

I will wait and see.

But if it's not a big improvement on RM's last "offer" I will vote no.

Are you really expecting a big improvement on last offer.

Nope.

[2yearpostie]

If its voted down, what happens?
Does the company fold with the loss of 140,000 jobs?

[aiden01]

If its voted down, what happens?
Does the company fold with the loss of 140,000 jobs?

It won't be though last 1 voted down was 23 yrs ago.

[datasaint]

If it's anything like on offer currently it'll be a no from me.

[k979aaa]

Next time read the ballot paper as the wording can be confusing yes or no is not always as it says in the wording they use!
But look forward to find out what this deal is they must of moved in the last few days so will give the benefit of time and see what has changed and if I can vote for it myself!

[profpieman]

If its voted down, what happens?
Does the company fold with the loss of 140,000 jobs?

Nope union say staff don't agree come back with a better deal to RM,

[clashcityrocker]

I can't see it being a good deal tbh but will wait and see, I'll be voting No if it's a s*** deal which I suspect it will be.

It will be a good deal in the circumstances but as the circumstances are dire the agreement will be seen as dire.
There are certain things the union, for all their bluster, had no control over.
RM needs to be subsidised, either by government or by GLS. That isn't going to happen any more so the transition from a letter business to a parcel business will be painful for many.
The ending of the use of planes will mean later arrivals of ail in DOs and consequently later start and finish times.
As I said the union have no control over that. It isn't their business to run.

Had they not overpromised at the start I think more people would have been more accepting of the final deal.
It will probably be worse terms and conditions. It will probably be a pay cut (when inflation is factored in)
I can't wait to read the full 30 pages.

[Shadedpostie]

Big of them to apologize, step in the right direction that. Hopefully the pay deal is well so we can move on

[enskied]

Thank goodness for that .

Why? You have no idea what is in the negotiator's agreement.

I doubt there's much to celebrate, but again I don't know.

We have to see it.

I don't see the point of throwing good money after bad, we gave it a good go and continuing would result in a Pyrrhic victory.

A totally bizarre reply.
You are already signing up for something you have no idea what it is.

[postslippete]

If its voted down, what happens?
Does the company fold with the loss of 140,000 jobs?

Well, it's not going to fold overnight as the company were immediately planning on giving us all a 10% pay increase.

[LouBarlow]

If its voted down, what happens?
Does the company fold with the loss of 140,000 jobs?

Nope union say staff don't agree come back with a better deal to RM,

Not a chance.

If its voted down, what happens?
Does the company fold with the loss of 140,000 jobs?

Well, it's not going to fold overnight as the company were immediately planning on giving us all a 10% pay increase.

If by immediate, you mean over the next 3 years, after agreeing to radical changes, sure. Another one who doesn’t bother to read proposals.

[k979aaa]

I can't see it being a good deal tbh but will wait and see, I'll be voting No if it's a s*** deal which I suspect it will be.

It will be a good deal in the circumstances but as the circumstances are dire the agreement will be seen as dire.
There are certain things the union, for all their bluster, had no control over.
RM needs to be subsidised, either by government or by GLS. That isn't going to happen any more so the transition from a letter business to a parcel business will be painful for many.
The ending of the use of planes will mean later arrivals of ail in DOs and consequently later start and finish times.
As I said the union have no control over that. It isn't their business to run.

Had they not overpromised at the start I think more people would have been more accepting of the final deal.
It will probably be worse terms and conditions. It will probably be a pay cut (when inflation is factored in)
I can't wait to read the full 30 pages.

Well we have had a few battles on here but you need to see the agreement first but like you don't think it will be a deal of the century monument. And cannot wait to see it as they promised to do so before we get the ballot papers!