RM don't care about the workforce or the service provided and nor does the CWU. Martin Walsh has posted details of the reasons why RM won't be rushing to make any worthwhile offer, it read more like a company statement to be honest.
I won't be holding my breath for a pay rise in the near future, it will probably be drawn out for a few months and will have loads of strings attached when it does appear. And most people will be more interested in getting the back pay than they are about the strings!
You have just nailed exactly how this will all pan out. It’s all so predictably depressing and frustrating.
RM don't care about the workforce or the service provided and nor does the CWU. Martin Walsh has posted details of the reasons why RM won't be rushing to make any worthwhile offer, it read more like a company statement to be honest.
I won't be holding my breath for a pay rise in the near future, it will probably be drawn out for a few months and will have loads of strings attached when it does appear. And most people will be more interested in getting the back pay than they are about the strings!
Terry has mentioned something about a deal no strings but as usual it was rather meaningless. We are getting nowhere and in fact we are all taking a massive pay cut. At least until the NI treshold is lifted in July.
RM don't care about the workforce or the service provided and nor does the CWU. Martin Walsh has posted details of the reasons why RM won't be rushing to make any worthwhile offer, it read more like a company statement to be honest.
I won't be holding my breath for a pay rise in the near future, it will probably be drawn out for a few months and will have loads of strings attached when it does appear. And most people will be more interested in getting the back pay than they are about the strings!
Terry has mentioned something about a deal no strings but as usual it was rather meaningless. We are getting nowhere and in fact we are all taking a massive pay cut. At least until the NI treshold is lifted in July.
But NI is also going up by 10%. And inflation is running at around 7%.
We are getting a big pay cut unless our pay goes up by at least 5-10%
There should be a legal requirement that after each new pay deal is agreed, the union reveals what it was asking for in the first place.
All academic though as it seems to be the accepted way these days to drag on for 4-6 months, get a fraction of inflation %, plus £500 to sweeten the deal.
Why is it going to be any different this time?
well the rep reckons RM have said with all the extra staff they've taken on, and with energy and fuel prices going through the roof, its eating into their profits and what they can afford. if thats true you can guess whats coming next.
well the rep reckons RM have said with all the extra staff they've taken on, and with energy and fuel prices going through the roof, its eating into their profits and what they can afford. if thats true you can guess whats coming next.
It wouldn't surprise me if they say there simply Is no money for a payrise.
Too much sickness had cost them too much-so simply it's all our fault.
well the rep reckons RM have said with all the extra staff they've taken on, and with energy and fuel prices going through the roof, its eating into their profits and what they can afford. if thats true you can guess whats coming next.
It wouldn't surprise me if they say there simply Is no money for a payrise.
Too much sickness had cost them too much-so simply it's all our fault.
Go sick in our place and the run doesn't get done. Sickness hardly costs anything then.
And the staff taken on? Despite quite a few new starters, we are still down in numbers from 2 years ago due to not everyone being replaced.
It's kind of like fuel prices going up 25p per litre and then we are supposed to be grateful with a 5p cut in duty.
I remember working for companies that would just give you a % payrise every year.
They never insisted on trying to reduce your T&Cs every year. Where did RM get this idea from, and why do the CWU go along with it, that every time they give you a payrise you've got to give something up FFS
Payrises used to simply cover the rise in the cost of living. My suppliers just contacted me to say my duel fuel DD is going up and extra £95! So they can kiss my ass if they think I'll be agreeing to sign away any more T&Cs for a paltry handout. How's about an old fashioned negotiaton strategy?
Give us a certain %, with no strings attached, or we'll ballot for Industrial Action. Bit too Bullish for Terry & Co I expect, they wouldn't want to upset their coshy relationship with RM.
Like all Wage Slaves, he had two crosses to bear: The people he worked for and the people he worked with! (Stephen Vizinczey.)
I remember working for companies that would just give you a % payrise every year.
They never insisted on trying to reduce your T&Cs every year. Where did RM get this idea from, and why do the CWU go along with it, that every time they give you a payrise you've got to give something up FFS
Payrises used to simply cover the rise in the cost of living. My suppliers just contacted me to say my duel fuel DD is going up and extra £95! So they can kiss my ass if they think I'll be agreeing to sign away any more T&Cs for a paltry handout. How's about an old fashioned negotiaton strategy?
Give us a certain %, with no strings attached, or we'll ballot for Industrial Action. Bit too Bullish for Terry & Co I expect, they wouldn't want to upset their coshy relationship with RM.
Exactly this.
In previous lives I too have worked for companies that automatically gave you a payrise each year, whilst asking nothing in return other than your continued good service and implied loyalty. It seemed like a thank you for your endeavours these past 12 months.
God only knows how our Union has gotten it into their heads that we have to give something up in return each year (Sundays this time, if the murmurings from our branch are to be believed). And, by some weird osmosis, us posties have come to expect we also have to jump through hoops in order to get a paltry payrise and back pay each winter.
I'm with Dorset...give us that certain percent with no strings attached or we're out the gates 'round the brazier and I'll bring the sausages.
I remember working for companies that would just give you a % payrise every year.
They never insisted on trying to reduce your T&Cs every year. Where did RM get this idea from, and why do the CWU go along with it, that every time they give you a payrise you've got to give something up FFS
Payrises used to simply cover the rise in the cost of living. My suppliers just contacted me to say my duel fuel DD is going up and extra £95! So they can kiss my ass if they think I'll be agreeing to sign away any more T&Cs for a paltry handout. How's about an old fashioned negotiaton strategy?
Give us a certain %, with no strings attached, or we'll ballot for Industrial Action. Bit too Bullish for Terry & Co I expect, they wouldn't want to upset their coshy relationship with RM.
I to worked for companies who would give you a crap 1% payrise but it was never attached to conditions it was a payrise not a paydeal,surely there isnt anymore conditions to be had we are streched to the limit as it is,im all for the union but that deal s**t has to stop.
I remember working for companies that would just give you a % payrise every year.
They never insisted on trying to reduce your T&Cs every year. Where did RM get this idea from, and why do the CWU go along with it, that every time they give you a payrise you've got to give something up FFS
Payrises used to simply cover the rise in the cost of living. My suppliers just contacted me to say my duel fuel DD is going up and extra £95! So they can kiss my ass if they think I'll be agreeing to sign away any more T&Cs for a paltry handout. How's about an old fashioned negotiaton strategy?
Give us a certain %, with no strings attached, or we'll ballot for Industrial Action. Bit too Bullish for Terry & Co I expect, they wouldn't want to upset their coshy relationship with RM.
I to worked for companies who would give you a crap 1% payrise but it was never attached to conditions it was a payrise not a paydeal,surely there isnt anymore conditions to be had we are streched to the limit as it is,im all for the union but that deal s**t has to stop.
They are coming for our sick pay next
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
I agree AD sick pay probably looks like a juicy target for RM's accountants. I know a lot of companies don't pay sick pay for the first 3 days abscence. It at least puts a stop to those shirkers who phone in every Thursday, or Friday, looking for a Long Weekend Off.
Longer Abscences are still protected. Lets be honest about it, that's what worries the majority of us, if we're off with a broken leg or a serious long term illness.
Like all Wage Slaves, he had two crosses to bear: The people he worked for and the people he worked with! (Stephen Vizinczey.)
I remember working for companies that would just give you a % payrise every year.
They never insisted on trying to reduce your T&Cs every year. Where did RM get this idea from, and why do the CWU go along with it, that every time they give you a payrise you've got to give something up FFS
Payrises used to simply cover the rise in the cost of living. My suppliers just contacted me to say my duel fuel DD is going up and extra £95! So they can kiss my ass if they think I'll be agreeing to sign away any more T&Cs for a paltry handout. How's about an old fashioned negotiaton strategy?
Give us a certain %, with no strings attached, or we'll ballot for Industrial Action. Bit too Bullish for Terry & Co I expect, they wouldn't want to upset their coshy relationship with RM.
Exactly this.
In previous lives I too have worked for companies that automatically gave you a payrise each year, whilst asking nothing in return other than your continued good service and implied loyalty. It seemed like a thank you for your endeavours these past 12 months.
God only knows how our Union has gotten it into their heads that we have to give something up in return each year (Sundays this time, if the murmurings from our branch are to be believed). And, by some weird osmosis, us posties have come to expect we also have to jump through hoops in order to get a paltry payrise and back pay each winter.
I'm with Dorset...give us that certain percent with no strings attached or we're out the gates 'round the brazier and I'll bring the sausages.
I agree AD sick pay probably looks like a juicy target for RM's accountants. I know a lot of companies don't pay sick pay for the first 3 days abscence. It at least puts a stop to those shirkers who phone in every Thursday, or Friday, looking for a Long Weekend Off.
Longer Abscences are still protected. Lets be honest about it, that's what worries the majority of us, if we're off with a broken leg or a serious long term illness.
The stage system means those 'shirkers' cant repeat that too often though
You can speak for yourself but I wouldnt give up sick pay for the first three days without a fight
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
So they can kiss my ass if they think I'll be agreeing to sign away any more T&Cs for a paltry handout. How's about an old fashioned negotiaton strategy?
Exactly this.