Return to shared vans from *?????????* ***

[POSTMAN]

The joint statement has been agreed despite the date, it's in the Coronavirus forum and also an LTB.

[Rommagic]

Van share optional tomorrow?

[Cucumber]

From the briefing:

Royal Mail Group will fully recognise individual circumstances (medical, mental
health, stress, anxiety etc.) in respect of those unable to share vehicles and
make reasonable adjustments as appropriate.

[citypostie]

From the briefing:

Royal Mail Group will fully recognise individual circumstances (medical, mental
health, stress, anxiety etc.) in respect of those unable to share vehicles and
make reasonable adjustments as appropriate.

So moved onto another delivery or allowed to start later in the day when the van gets back?

[Jahpostie]

In the real world....

Royal Mail Group will give full lip service to individual circumstances (medical, mental
health, stress, anxiety etc.) in respect of those unable to share vehicles and will harass and bully into sharing as appropriate.

[toonshola]

In the real world....

Royal Mail Group will give full lip service to individual circumstances (medical, mental
health, stress, anxiety etc.) in respect of those unable to share vehicles and will harass and bully into sharing as appropriate.

Yep you have nailed it there. And they will probably be helped by some fellow posties too.
Was nice of Terry and Dave at the top of the union to Chuck us back into vans together. Hopefully get a video update from Terry’s basement later this week.

[korky]

in all honestly anyone who feels anxious about van sharing who's already been sorting/prepping for 2 to 3 hours in the morning shouldn't even be there,
i've been bumping into people, clashing arms/hands/shoulders since the virus first hit us, it's been business as usual bar the outdoor element of the job,
30 mins or so driving together between loops with someone you trust is nothing to the hustle bustle indoors, which is a nightmare and something the cwu & management simply swept under the carpet to keep us moving

[Jahpostie]

in all honestly anyone who feels anxious about van sharing who's already been sorting/prepping for 2 to 3 hours in the morning shouldn't even be there,
i've been bumping into people, clashing arms/hands/shoulders since the virus first hit us, it's been business as usual bar the outdoor element of the job,
30 mins or so driving together between loops with someone you trust is nothing to the hustle bustle indoors, which is a nightmare and something the cwu & management simply swept under the carpet to keep us moving

Not so simple if you're a reserve chucked here there and everywhere with new daily partners in a stinking hot van. A licence to spread....

[korky]

i get that element of the job, but anyone, reserves, full time, part timer in early then the risk factor goes out of the window working indoors
at least outdoors you are with just 1 person for 5hrs or so rather than close contact with 30 or so indoors

[IloveMYredTROLLEY!]

I don't recall anyone in my depot having an easily identifying mark, such as a flashing red light above their heads, signifying they were infected in the ~4 days before they showed symptoms or felt ill enough to isolate.

I do recall before can sharing was scrapped, a number of cases in my depot, showing a chain of infection from one day of van sharing, having shared vans for ~45mins over each shift.

Delta is far more transmittable than previous UK strains.

Double vaccination does not guarantee you will not catch or spread Delta.

I'd urge everyone to wear masks; keep your distance when possible; do at least twice weekly Lateral Flow tests and have the NHS Covid app active when not at home.

[HTPostman]

in all honestly anyone who feels anxious about van sharing who's already been sorting/prepping for 2 to 3 hours in the morning shouldn't even be there,
i've been bumping into people, clashing arms/hands/shoulders since the virus first hit us, it's been business as usual bar the outdoor element of the job,
30 mins or so driving together between loops with someone you trust is nothing to the hustle bustle indoors, which is a nightmare and something the cwu & management simply swept under the carpet to keep us moving

Not so simple if you're a reserve chucked here there and everywhere with new daily partners in a stinking hot van. A licence to spread....

This. My record in a 26/27 day working month was 19 different rounds which looking back was ridiculous.

Even 3 or 4 van partners I could cope with. But it won’t work like that and we’ll be shunted here there and everywhere.

[korky]

in all honestly anyone who feels anxious about van sharing who's already been sorting/prepping for 2 to 3 hours in the morning shouldn't even be there,
i've been bumping into people, clashing arms/hands/shoulders since the virus first hit us, it's been business as usual bar the outdoor element of the job,
30 mins or so driving together between loops with someone you trust is nothing to the hustle bustle indoors, which is a nightmare and something the cwu & management simply swept under the carpet to keep us moving

Not so simple if you're a reserve chucked here there and everywhere with new daily partners in a stinking hot van. A licence to spread....

This. My record in a 26/27 day working month was 19 different rounds which looking back was ridiculous.

Even 3 or 4 van partners I could cope with. But it won’t work like that and we’ll be shunted here there and everywhere.

you're high-lighting the outdoor, but what is the indoor work like?
i'd hazard a guess that you're more likely to catch any sort of virus off a work colleague indoors than outdoors

[Jahpostie]

in all honestly anyone who feels anxious about van sharing who's already been sorting/prepping for 2 to 3 hours in the morning shouldn't even be there,
i've been bumping into people, clashing arms/hands/shoulders since the virus first hit us, it's been business as usual bar the outdoor element of the job,
30 mins or so driving together between loops with someone you trust is nothing to the hustle bustle indoors, which is a nightmare and something the cwu & management simply swept under the carpet to keep us moving

Not so simple if you're a reserve chucked here there and everywhere with new daily partners in a stinking hot van. A licence to spread....

This. My record in a 26/27 day working month was 19 different rounds which looking back was ridiculous.

Even 3 or 4 van partners I could cope with. But it won’t work like that and we’ll be shunted here there and everywhere.

you're high-lighting the outdoor, but what is the indoor work like?
i'd hazard a guess that you're more likely to catch any sort of virus off a work colleague indoors than outdoors

You're missing the point. Van sharing is a confined space worse than indoors with no option to distance. Therefore reserves are massively more exposed to infection. Effectively thrown under the bus. Cannon fodder.

[korky]

suppose my d/o differs to most then, i'd be 2 to 3 feet away in a ventilated van with zero physical contact, whilst indoors i'm continuously barged into, elbows hitting my chin, calves kicked whilst doing ips

[Schiff]

suppose my d/o differs to most then, i'd be 2 to 3 feet away in a ventilated van with zero physical contact, whilst indoors i'm continuously barged into, elbows hitting my chin, calves kicked whilst doing ips

Ventilated van?

Get ready for the disputes when one person wants both windows fully open and the other wants them shut on a rainy day.